CFIDE folder missing

[Guest]

I can't find my CFIDE folder. My website is working fine with no errors, But can't locate the CFIDE folder. Is there a way I can find where the CFIDE lives?

[carl type3]

CFadmin > Server Settings > Mappings should point to CFIDE
EG:
  Logical Path   Directory Path 
    /CFIDE    D:/ColdFusion10/cfusion/wwwroot/CFIDE

or another example

Logical Path   Directory Path 
    /CFIDE    D:\JRun4\servers\ProdBeta\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\CFIDE  

HTH, Carl.

[Charlie Arehart]

Just do beware: while that mapping does point to where CF thinks it is (which is important), there is also the question of where the web server (IIS or Apache) think the CFIDE lives, for each site that may use the CFIDE (whether for the CF Admin or for the CFIDE/scripts and other folders).

Prior to CF10 (or if someone overrides how CF10 works), the CFIDE for an external web server could be anywhere on your server. Indeed, some people mistakenly have multiple copies and don’t realize it, so mistakenly only update some one copy of the CFIDE.

It really is best then, Ghani, to do a search of your server to find where in fact you have any CFIDE directory/ies. I have a blog entry sharing a couple of tools (on Windows):

http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2009/12/2/faster_better_file_searching

Hope that helps.

/charlie

[Guest]

Hi Charlie,

I did the find and found about 4 cfide and they all are old. There is one new but it is called cfide2.

I just need to know where I need to copy files from to get the same exact settings in new server. Is JRun folder any good? does it contain all the settings?

Thanks,

Ghani

[Charlie Arehart]

Ghani, there’s a lot we can’t know about your environment without more info. But since you ask “Is JRun folder any good?”, I’m assuming that you’re running CF9 or earlier in the Multiserver form of deployment (multiple instances). If so, then it could be that when you (or whoever) installed CF, you told it NOT to use an external web server, so it would have put the CFIDE in the \JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war directory. And if you have not updated CF since then, then yes, “the CFIDE in the JRun folder would be good”.

If you HAD told the CF installer to connect with an external web server then it would have asked (prior to 10) where to put it, and so it could be anywhere. You say you’ve searched and found 4, all “old”. But then you ask if the “JRun folder is any good”. Is that one of the 4? Or a separate one? If the latter, and your question may be that you want your external web server sites to have access to that updated CFIDE, then don’t “copy” them but instead just create a virtual directory (whether in IIS or Apache) to point to this folder. That way, if you ever update it (such as with hotfixes), you don’t need to worry about keeping multiple CFIDE copies in sync.

Finally, even if you told CF to connect to an external server, note also that every new instance you create (with the instance Manager in the cfusion instance’s CF Admin, in this multiserver setup) will also have its OWN CFIDE (as in \JRun4\servers\[instancename]\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war (note that “[instancename]” would be your own instance name. You were confused by Carl’s reference to his own example of D:\JRun4\servers\ProdBeta\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\CFIDE, and you said that “ProdBeta doesn’t exist”. His was just an example. Your name will be different.

Note also that I am not mistaken in showing dashed in the first path above (cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war) and dot’s in the second (\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\). That’s a quirk of the CF Multiserver deployment.

Hope some of that’s helpful for your challenge.

/charlie

[Guest]

Charlie,

Thank you very much for detailed post.

Do you think I can just copy over the JRun4 folder in the new install to have same settings?

Thank you

Ghani

[Charlie Arehart]

Copy it from where, Ghani? Again, you’re not being clear about things so we’re having to guess.

If you mean from another machine, no. You can’t know that the CFIDE in that folder would be in synch with the other files changed with updates, such as the WEB-INF and LIB folders.

If you mean on the same machine, again don’t copy anything. Just change the web server site definitions to point to the jrun CFIDE as a virtual directory.

/charlie

[Guest]

What I am doing is creating same server settings on another coldfusion server. Since I cant see CFIDE then I have to work around it. If I copy the JRun4 folder to new server. do you think it will take over the settings?

I am trying be specific as I can, with out giving a lot of details. This is public post, if you know what I mean.

Thanks,

Ghani

[Charlie Arehart]

I doubt you can do what you are asking, I’m afraid. Do you mean copy the entire JRun4 folder from one machine to another? No, you cannot do that. That does not install CF onto that new machine.

Or do you perhaps mean copy the CFIDE folder from one server with a JRun4 folder onto another server that does have a jrun4 folder, but no CFIDE within it? That may not work, either. First, you have to make sure that both deployments (of CF multiserver into that JRun folder) are identical with respect to the version they are running (down to hotfixes, cumulative hotfixes, and/or security updates).

Second, even in that case the question remains why the second server does not have a CFIDE within it? If you are saying it’s the cfusion instance, it could be because you told the CF installer to put it in the external server in some website docroot.

Third, in that case, putting it into the JRun4 cfusion wwwroot still won’t necessarily solve your problem. If the external web server web sites are still defined to find the CFIDE in some other location, you’ll need to modify them to find this new copy you bring in.

I hear that you feel you can’t provide more details, but then we are hampered in being able to help here by email/forum replies.

If this is an important requirement for you, I’ll note that there are folks (myself included) who can assist you (for a fee, remotely, without need to access your server, via shared desktop solutions). To find such folks, myself included, see cf411.com/cfconsult. I know that may sound like a cop out/sales pitch. But sometimes it just is more expedient for some folks to have someone help them directly, rather than via the forums.

Hope that’s helpful.

/charlie

[Guest]

Hi Carl,

Thank you for responding.

cfusion in first URL and ProBeta in second URL dont exist.

I am talking over this already set server from some one who was pretty good in coldfusion. I cant seem to find the cfide. It is so strange.

Thank you

Ghani