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Is coldfusion dead?

Explorer ,
Sep 17, 2010

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Judging by the lack of participation in this forum, I'm guessing coldfusion really is dead....Adobe doesn't seem to care a whole lot about it either judging by the number of unanswered posts!

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Is coldfusion dead?

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Sep 17, 2010

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Judging by the lack of participation in this forum, I'm guessing coldfusion really is dead....Adobe doesn't seem to care a whole lot about it either judging by the number of unanswered posts!

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Engaged ,
Sep 17, 2010

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Yes, the fact that there are over 100 replies to posts on the first page of this forum alone certainly supports your theory (smacks forehead).

Go troll elsewhere.

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Then you can just call me and the thousands of fellow ColdFusion developoers zombies and we'll call you troll.

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Sep 19, 2010

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i believe that calls for a "bazinga"

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 19, 2010

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Not dead, but certainly very, very far removed from maintstream, which is both good and bad. Good, because ColdFusion developers are easily able to earn 50% more than other language developers due to the difficulty in finding one. Bad, because eventually the language will die off.

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Sep 19, 2010

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I have to agree with the original poster that the quality of this board really sucks.

It's interesting how everyone tries to attack the original poster. The poor guy, instead why don't you do some self-reflection and see how can you approve the aboard?

Hello?

Anyway...read CF visionaries like Ben Nadel, Ray Camden, etc

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Well, Bluespoon, you've made a total of nine posts here, so it's perhaps a bit early in your membership here to be complaining about how useful people find these forums.

I think these forums are pretty good for people asking questions at the simple end of the scale, as they get their questions answered quickly and reasonably accurately.  However anything beyond mid-level sort of stuff struggles to get answers here.  givent hat, most of the questions here are pretty basic, so I think quite a high percentage of people looking for help actually get it.

As an exercise, if you review the posts made over the last week or so, what percentage haven't had an answer or at least a response with an offer to help?

As for people being abrupt towards people posting the perennial "CF is dead"... it all gets a bit old and repetitive after a while.  This sort of thing pops up every few months (and it unfolds exactly the same way this thread has).  The people making the assertion just sound ignorant and, as someone pointed out, just after a bit of a sh!t-stir.  Their posts have little to do with actually engendering discussion about the potential longevity of CF, they're just sitting @ home (possibly their mother's home) in their piss-stained underpants slobbering with glee at the chance to interact with people the only way they can: trying to wind them up.   And what sort of fvckwit does that?  The only thing they deserve is derision.

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Adam

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BBC News haven't changed their headline in over an hour, I assume this means that absolutely nothing has happened in the world and we're all doomed.

For once, I completely agree with Adam. I signed up to these forums to help people out and return some of the favours given to me when I was starting out, but I find myself coming here less and less as it's watered down by the pointless drivel such as this thread.

Many of us here are extremely busy people but we want to help; however there's only so many times you can answer the same old questions by people who simply can't be arsed to even begin looking into the problem yourselves. I've spent over an hour drafting and testing a reply for someone before, but that was because he came on, stated clearly and precisely his issue and his entire thought process and problem solving trail.

When people come on saying "how do I send an email" then wonder why no-one's bothered replying they tend to get the right arse on rather than thinking "maybe, just MAYBE someone's asked this before, and maybe if I Google for it I'll find a million replies".

ColdFusion is NOT dead. True enough Adobe do *not* care about you, because £2k to them is pocket money. They're just like any other multi-billion dollar company, do you really expect them to send a salesman round to pleasure you because you're buying two copies of CF Builder? No. Not going to happen.

ColdFusion is stronger than ever - just because some tosspot PHP developer looks down his nose at it doesn't mean it's pointless, and very few companies go from CF back to something else once they've seen how quickly systems can be developed.

Now stfu

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I also fully agree with Adam and Owain. I would simply add that many of the time wasting posts could easily be answered, not only by prior threads or Googling, but by bothering to take a quick peek at the documentation. "How do I send an email" is a good example. How long does it take to find CFMAIL in the documentation? The other time waster is the opposite extreme -- "How do I write a shopping cart?" or "How do I secure my application?" There are entire books and courses dedicated to questions like these and providing a useful answer beyond "refer to such-and-such" is a very time consuming proposition.

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Sep 20, 2010

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I have to think that the redundant questions are not unique to ColdFusion though. I am sure the "I cant be bothered to do any homework, so please do it for me" questions are a reflection of the person asking the question, rather than the product. A similar observation could be made regarding the very post that started this topic.

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ColdFusion was official pronounced dead a while back and then version 3 came out.What version are we on now??

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Engaged ,
Sep 21, 2010

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The perceived lack of participation might have something to do with the fact that CF is so intuitive (for most people) that any amount of initiative on the developer's part finds an answer in very short order.

BTW: This is a positive reflection on CF, not a negative one.

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Sep 21, 2010

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Of course those that cannot grasp the language wish to declare its' death, when they are unable to give life to their career using it.

djkhalif

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