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Colors in Illustrator appear different to colors in pantone color manager

Community Beginner ,
Jun 07, 2018 Jun 07, 2018

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Hello everyone,

So I purchased a pantone solid coated, uncoated book. I've used one of those colors in Adobe illustrator but it appears very different from the one in the book (much lighter.. less saturated.. etc).. I downloaded the "pantone color manager" and to my surprise when I look up that color in the color manager, it appears to be much closer to the actual color in the book. I also looked up the color by it's code on the pantone website and it also looks off (exactly like the one I'm seeing in Ai).

The screenshot below shows how the color is appearing in Ai (on the left) and how it's appearing in the pantone color manager (right). ! !

It's a very annoying problem as it makes me work with colors that are far from what I want my final output to look like. Is this a color management (ICC profile) problem? Because I'm not exactly an expert in that area.

Thank you !

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Jun 08, 2018 Jun 08, 2018

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That's what I get, starting with Lab-values for Pantone 2738U:

The Lab-values were found in PhS. In Illu a new swatch was defined using these values.

Document space is RGB. Exported as AI-document.

New PhH document, sRGB. AI-document placed, left.

Square in PhS using actual Lab-values (same numbers), right.

Measure both squares:

L=36 a=+17, b=-48 (right), b=-49 (left)

Saved as png and shown here. sRGB, but png cannot embed profiles.

Everything done with CS6. The swatch color is in-gamut for sRGB.

Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

PS.:

A screenshot of the four samples on this page here delivers these Lab-values:

Top left:       35/+9/-35      Top right:       36/+17/-36

Bottom left:  36/+17/-49    Bottom right: 36/+17/-48

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