How to turn turn off Wide Gamut on Dell Monitor

[Cj5E95]

I have a Dell UP3017 and U3011. Both have presets for SRGB, Adobe RGB, and a custom color setting. The two RGB presets do not allow for any RGB or white balance adjustments and even with ICC profiles are WAY off in color and white point (Delta E of 10 to 20).

The custom color setting has full white balance and color controls however the gamut in that mode is wide gamut. I am wondering how to properly setup my Windows 8.1 color management settings to get that custom color mode to be sRGB instead of wide gamut. Any ideas?

The U3011 is not able to be calibrated using DUCS.

also where is some good repositories for ICC profiles and monitor settings?

Thanks

[TheDigitalDog]

They don't allow adjustments because you'd no longer have either well defined color space. Which has nothing really to do with color gamut; the location of the primaries are what they must be.

Explain your goal for calibration; to match a print or something else?

[Test Screen Name]

The aim of calibration is to (1) discover the actual colours on the monitor and (2) make a profile describing them.

Once you have the profile you can see accurate colour in Colour Managed apps, though everything else remains wrong on a wide gamut monitor.

[TheDigitalDog]

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I would say, the aim of calibration it to place the device into a desired condition and have the ability to produce that behavior as the device changes (which it will). 

If the aim is to emulate sRGB, this explains why once the preset is produced, it can't be altered in any way; it would no longer emulate sRGB. 

FWIW, important to state, a wide gamut display and a 'standard' sRGB display are equal in what appeas 'right' or 'wrong' (accuracy is a rabbit hole of colorimetry the OP may not wish to go) outside of color managed applications. 

On a wide gamut display that is  roughly emulating Adobe RGB (1998), sRGB remains wrong outside color managed applications just as on an sRGB emulating display, Adobe RGB (1998) remains wrong outside color managed applications. The fault is non color managed applications with ANY color space 

sRGB urban legend & myths Part 2

In this 17 minute video, I'll discuss some more sRGB misinformation and cover:

When to use sRGB and what to expect on the web and mobile devices

How sRGB doesn't insure a visual match without color management, how to check

The downsides of an all sRGB workflow sRGB's color gamut vs. "professional" output devices

The future of sRGB and wide gamut display technology

Photo print labs that demand sRGB for output

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/sRGBMythsPart2.mp4 Low resolution on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvVUL1gWVs

[NB, colourmanagement]

I suggest you purchase display calibration/profile making software. I'd imagine that setting the screen preset to sRGB will trim the gamut - then make an ICC profile to properly describe the device condition to colour managed applications like Photoshop.

I recommend basICColor display 6 software  https://www.colourmanagement.net/products/basiccolor/basiccolor-display-software/ used with a decent colorimeter such as the X-Rite i1DisplayPro. 

Using display 6 software you can "emulate" sRGB on a wide gamut display. There's a free 14 day demo

I hope this helps
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[Test Screen Name]

I guess the path is

If your wide gamut monitor has an "sRGB" option, you can turn it on (of course there wasn't much point paying extra for wide gamut if this is full time!!)

- this makes it VERY APPROXIMATELY sRGB. Which is a typical monitor - they are approximate.

- for non colour manged apps the task is done. If you are trying to tune exact colours you are wasting your time utterly. Sure, mess with your settings, because that's what people viewing your work will do (but see below). Do NOT call messing with the settings "colour management", it isn't!

- for colour managed accuracy in colour manged apps you NOW need a profile which describes the actual monitor settings (approximately sRGB, but not exactly). Do NOT set this as working space. Do NOT embed this profile in files. Do NOT mess with any setting afer making this profile; or make a new profile if you mess with settings.

Do I have that right?

[TheDigitalDog]

The next question is; which sRGB (sadly):

https://ninedegreesbelow.com/photography/srgb-profile-comparison.html

[NB, colourmanagement]

Hi

have you worked this out now?

I hope the tips and suggestions here have given you the answers you needed, if so plase mark one correct, if not please come back with further info after testing whats been suggested. 

I hope this helps
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