Gift bag dimensions wrong?

[rpaulseymour]

I've been using Dimension for all of 65 seconds. I added a gift bag to start to recreate our already done company gift bag. Our actual gift bag is 20 x 30 x 9cm. Type that in to the bag properties. The gift bag image in Dimension doesn't even look remotely close to the correct proportions as the actual bag sitting on my desk. 

Color me shocked, or not at all... is this just another tool designed to fool designers? I mean, it's a packaging mockup tool, no? On what planet would it make sense to have the dimenions of a paper bag NOT be the paper dimensions of the bag? I assume, for ludicrous reasons, the floating string is somehow considered the "top" of the "bag." 

Continually, I'm blown away at the complete and total lack of either testing or even basic understanding what designers need from Adobe. I could make an amazing mockup for my clinent in minutes with this tool, instead I want to blow my brains out as usual. Or, am I missing something? 

How do I get a simple 20x30x9cm paper bag?

[Colin Holgate · Accepted solution]

I made the bag with the sizes you gave, and took the model into SketchUp to measure it. It did come out slightly shorter than it should, not sure why (thought there seems to be a bit of rogue geometry at the back of the bag), but the height was very close. Could it be that they include the handles in the height, and you weren't expecting that?

 

[rpaulseymour]

Wow, kudos for going all the way. But, from your trial, clearly the handles are included in the specs for the "bag" itself. And, even more bizaare is the odd with (at least that should be 20cm). For packaging design, this just makes no sense. 

Really appreciate your test. I'm just going to stick with crappy flat 2d mockups in Illustrator. But, clear proof that these specs are way off from reality. Cheers! I'm not crazy. Hahha. Really, thanks. 

[Colin Holgate]

I'm reasonably sure that Dimension doesn't know it's a bag. If you wanted a 6 foot tall wizard, with his usual pointy hat, Dimension would give you a 6 foot model featuring a 5 foot tall wizard.

[rpaulseymour]

Haha, excellent. But, the irony is it's called "Dimensions" ... and clearly for packaging. So, you'd think they'd concentrate on getting the packaging dimensions correct lol 

Again, thanks for doing the real test!

[Imaginerie]

It's actually called "Dimension" so it only deals with one (I'm Joking! 🙂 )
Dimension can be a bit wonky with well... dimensions.
I wouldn't say it's a mock up tool per say, I've done very little mock ups with it, but actual staging (integration of objects within an environment) but the point is moot there.
In case that helps, you can have a go with the new mock up tool within Illustrator Beta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Xa7rw-slw
and that bit of wonderful thing that is fantastic fold 🙂 (you can export .obj files which will probably better measured in in dimension proper)
https://www.fantasticfold.com/#
Fantastic fold won't probably work for your bag, given the construction, but it may help you for other projects.

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