Way too soon. Adobe only acquired Allegorithmic last week.
From Adobe's announcement:
"...looking forward to sharing more details about how we’re incorporating Allegorithmic’s Substance tools into Creative Cloud over the coming months."
This acquisition comes at a bad time for me. I was just about to purchase a stand-alone copy of Substance Painter. I don't want to purchase a license if the product will be available on the creative cloud apps. However, I need to use Substance Painter. Is there any indication on a timeline to get the product into the Creative Cloud product line?
I have not heard back from Adobe on this issue yet via email.
Is there any indication on a timeline to get the product into the Creative Cloud product line?
No. Adobe does not provide timelines on issues like that. You're unlikely to receive an email reply from them.
My guess would be later this year. Keep an eye on the various Adobe blogs such as the one I linked above.
Maybe you could try Quixel Mixer in the meantime. It is a free texturing app. I'm sure not as powerful as Substance but it may be able to get the job done for you. I am excited about this news.
Have they even suggested that it would be part of it. I would have thought they would have mentioned it at Max 2019, but they didn't. Even though there was a whole presentation on Substance. I'd be stoked if they did add it.
Under "what's included" in the Creative Cloud products list they say:
Adobe has a number of products that are not parts of the Creative Cloud and so aren't available under the Creative Cloud All Apps membership. FrameMaker, for one (that's my primary program; I'm a writer, not an artist). I don't know if there are plans to include Substance Painter and Designer in Creative Cloud or not, but from what you post it is at least still available for purchase.
I hope Adobe provides an update on this at some point.
>> So is this coming to CC or not?
Adobe is offering the Substance suite of products as a separate subscription - not part of Creative Cloud.
Then they can keep it. They already get enough of my money. It would be nice if I could get rid of the majority of apps I DON'T use and replace them with apps I actually want to use, but that won't happen since they have a virtual monopoly, and will likely continue to abuse their captive audience.
I'm equally disappointed substance painter is not part of the cloud package I am paying for. I purposefully paid more for the comprehensive cloud package so I could avoid this type of shortcoming. Currently dissapointed in Adobe for not including substance painter or giving any clear idea of if or when it would be included in the cloud. Perhaps things are in flux and the situation will change, I hope so, this is unsatisfactory.
same, just keeping this thread going. its absolutely insane that we arent getting substance. like we have to eventually, if they did theyd get such a boost from it, and i know they just raised the price so like why the heck now.
Maxon offers a reduced c4d subscription rate for adobe creative cloud subscribers. It's not much, but one would think CC subscribers would at least get a discount for Substance licenses. Adobe and Maxon have a partnership whereas Substance is under Adobe ownership. The Substance annual license isn't too expensive, although subscriptions add up for those paying for separate modelling, rendering and texturing programs. Looks like the acquisition will only benefit A Corp in the end...
I appreciate everyone's feedback, but please post your request for Substance being added to the Creative Cloud to the relevant Substance forum at https://forum.substance3d.com/.
It is in a different business group than our digital media products, so if you want your voice to be heard then please post your request in a forum relevant to the application.
I'm sorry, but does ANYONE think that will change things? While I appreciate your well meaning suggestion Jeff, your employer has about as much of a chance of adding Substance to Creative Cloud as they do creating a Linux version of CC. It ain't happening because you hold a monopoly position and are behaving as a monopoly.
Also, considering this post started right after the twitter announcement, that forum didn't exist as part of the Adobe family at the time, this one did and was relevant and this is where we all posted. Let us comiserate in peace, lol.
I am writing on here as I have a full Creative Cloud subscrition and I am curious as to when the Substance suite of products are to be available through my subscription not a seperate one. In the UK it is illegal to write false or deceptive messaging on any advertising https://www.gov.uk/marketing-advertising-law/regulations-that-affect-advertising , I reference the section about "including false or deceptive messages". If I look at the Adobe Creative Cloud Plans & Pricing, which has first made sure I have gone to the United Kingdom section https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud/plans.html?, the "All Apps" opening text says "Get our entire collection of creative desktop and mobile apps and services for designing images, graphics, layouts, user experiences, video and audio for print, the web and mobile devices." Is Adobe trying to say that the "Substance" suite of software is not creative, then please someone let me know how? When descriptive text reads that the package contains "...our entire collection..." I would really like to know how this cannot include the Substance software?
You have misunderstood what Adobe is telling you. "All apps" refers to all the applications included in Creative Cloud, not all the applications owned by Adobe.
Adobe owns quite a few applications that are not included in Creative Cloud and are thus not covered by the Creative Cloud subscription plans. Substance appears to be one of them.
I was going on the false claim as you can read says "Get our entire collection of creative desktop.....", at no point does it specify that the word "entire" has been redefined for this statement to mean just thoes select apps. If you use Google and search "define: entire" the very first option says "1. with no part left out; whole.". Therefore the assumption with the word "entire collection of creative.." in no way makes you think that it means all of the selected Creative Cloud apps, otherwise I would assume it shoud read "Get all of our Creative Cloud collection of creative...".
I notice that in your statement of me misunderstanding you point out "All apps", but you missed out illustrating how the phrase "entire collection of creative.." can be limited, unless of course Adobe are not counting this as a collection of creative software?
You said yourself: "Get our entire collection of creative desktop...". The suite is called "Creative Cloud". Those are the applications Adobe is referring to and considering you see that information on the pages for Creative Cloud, I'm not sure why you think they could be referring to applications that aren't included in Creative Cloud.
For whatever reason, at this time Adobe doesn't include Substance in the Creative Cloud and therefore it is not included in the All Apps subscription which is specifically for the applications included in the Creative Cloud.
As to why they don't include Substance, I don't know. I don't work for Adobe.
Ah. I looked at the 3D/AR page for Creative Cloud and it does list Substance as well as Medium. The page specifies that those two products are sold separately. So my apologies on that, but since that page says those products are sold separately, I don't think you're going to see it as part of the All Apps subscription any time soon.