DW Development Toolbox

[Guest]

I actually have two questions. Is the DWT the same as extensions? If I want to create dynamic web pages is the cost of the toolkit worth it. It appears to cost almost as much as DW.

Thanks

[Günter_Schenk]

yes, the Adobe Dreamweaver Developer Toolbox (ADDT) is an extension for DW CS3 (will bee made compatible with DW CS4 in early 2009). In order to get an unbiased impression, I suggest to download the trial version and evaluate if it meets your requirements.

[Mystifier]

Does anyone know what "compatible with CS4 in early 2009" means? I currently use MX 2004 and was thinking about upgrading to CS4. However, I make extensive use of the olf InterAKT extensions. Specifically the dynamic lists and Nextio Forms. Therefore, CS4 is of little value to me without that capability and I heard that the Developer Toolbox has that in it.

Thanks

[Newsgroup_User]

kent909 wrote:
> I actually have two questions. Is the DWT the same as extensions? If I want to create dynamic web pages is the cost of the toolkit worth it. It appears to cost almost as much as DW.

The ADDT forum is here:
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc3909a/
You can ask the users what they think about it.

FWIW: Dreamweaver has a decent bit of dynamic coding capability built in. Depending on how complex you want your applications to be. Take a read through the docs, in particular the "Making pages dynamic" and "Building applications visually" sections:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Dreamweaver/10.0_Using/

Also, If you choose to go commercial, you may want to take a look at WebAssist's dynamic extension options:
http://www.webassist.com/



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[Günter_Schenk]

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Specifically the dynamic lists and Nextio Forms. Therefore, CS4 is of little value to me without that capability and I heard that the Developer Toolbox has that in it
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ADDT has the same dynamic list and forms which MX Kollection had -- it´s just not called "Nextensio" any more

[Mystifier]

Excellent! Now I just have to wait and see what "early 2009" means.

[Mystifier]

Sorry......one more question. Do pages update easily from InterAKT extensions to Developer Toolbox equivalents? Or, do I have to rewrite the pages?

[Günter_Schenk]

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Do pages update easily from InterAKT extensions to Developer Toolbox equivalents?
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in case your existing pages have been built with the latest MX Kollection version (3.7.1, AFAIK), and if they were built using the PHP_MYSQL server model (not ADODB), they´ll be compatible with ADDT and don´t need to be rewritten

[Mystifier]

They are built in ASP using the last InterAKT extension I could get. I will continue in ASP. Will the Developer Toolbox let me work in ASP? Will pages update?

Thanks

[Günter_Schenk]

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They are built in ASP using the last InterAKT extension I could get. I will continue in ASP. Will the Developer Toolbox let me work in ASP?
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ADDT supports ASP VBscript the same way MX Kollection did

[Brad Lawryk]

ADDT is worth every penny and more to me. Although to my knowledge the CS4 version is not even in Beta yet. So who knows when it will be available. Hopefully soon ... best package I have ever come across.

[Mystifier]

I have the same concern. I wish Adobe would take their purchase of Macromedia seriously some day. They seem to seriously miss the mark with web developers. They purchased Macromedia and then purchased InterAkt and took away the best extensions on the market. Releasing CS4 without the toolkit is irresponsible and makes CS4 of little value. How can they not see that?

[Günter_Schenk]

@Brad

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Although to my knowledge the CS4 version is not even in Beta yet. So who knows when it will be available
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on Dec 17 Cristinel, the ADDT product manager, posted a public invitation in the ADDT forums (meant for current ADDT users of course) to take part in the "compatibility release for Dreamweaver CS4" Prerelease Program: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b74a9c/0

@Mystifier

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Releasing CS4 without the toolkit is irresponsible and makes CS4 of little value
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Dreamweaver has lots of value for non-ADDT users as well, and in the past any new "compatible with..." MX Kollection version was also released after a new DW version saw the light of day -- as many other extensions too, which have to be overhauled to make them compatible with new DW versions.

[Mystifier]

Thanks. That's WONDERFUL to hear!! I just emailed her and offered to test in CS4 using ASP/VB and MySQL. I am happy to help if this can get ADDT for CS4 out the door more quickly. I have more than 100 sites needing it right now.

[Brad Lawryk]

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Originally posted by: geschenk
@Brad

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Although to my knowledge the CS4 version is not even in Beta yet. So who knows when it will be available
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on Dec 17 Cristinel, the ADDT product manager, posted a public invitation in the ADDT forums (meant for current ADDT users of course) to take part in the "compatibility release for Dreamweaver CS4" Prerelease Program: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b74a9c/0

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Well, what the heck? I don't remember seeing that and I have been watching patiently for it.

[Günter_Schenk]

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I just emailed her
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FWIW, but Cristinel is male human being 🙂

[Mystifier]

Ooops!! Sorry!!

[Günter_Schenk]

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Well, what the heck? I don't remember seeing that and I have been watching patiently for it
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Well, us 40+ geezers might be in need of some new contact lenses every now and then :-))