Google News tags [locked]

[Teledyol]

I have a news website that was originally created in Adobe GoLive and has had a Google News site rating since 2003.  There have been a few iterations, but it's time to totally reconstruct the tempates.

There are quite a fw tags for the basic items that the Google News panel would prefer to see for the latest "Tranparency" guidelines that changed in June 2021. I've yet to see an adequate template that works with both Google News and Dreamweaver. I don't want to use any WordPress solution.

thanks

[Nancy OShea]

Hi @Teledyol,

A Dreamweaver Template.dwt is a proprietary file used by Dreamweaver to help you manage your site.  You don't have to use a Template.  But if you're married to this notion, you'll need to create the template yourself to suit your particular needs including whatever special codes Google requires.  

Start your dummy page with the usual suspects. 

• A responsive CSS & HTML5 layout.
• Sitewide header, footer & navigation elements.
• Empty regions for page specific content.
• Empty optional regions for content that may or may not appear on all pages like ads or promotional content, etc...
• Valid code that works in all browsers and mobile devices.

About 80% of your development time will go into creating this.  When you're totally satisfied with your dummy page, go to File > Save as Template.  DW will prompt you to add Template Editable Regions or Optional Regions for content that changes from page to page.  Do this and save.  Close your Template.dwt

CREATE A NEW CHILD PAGE BASED ON TEMPLATE:

Go to File > New > Site Templates.  Select a site and a template.dwt file.  Hit the Create button.

Immediately save your newly created child page.

Repeat for other site pages.

NOTE:  Templates are fine for small - medium sized websites, up to approx 50 pages.  Beyond that, you will need a more robust solution with server-side databases, dynamic scripts and a backend CMS to manage your data.  WordPress is one example of a database driven site but certainly not the only one.

[Teledyol]

Nancy, 

You're still at it…

It seems as if you're always ( for many years) trying to discourage use of the Dreamweaver platform to get anything done. I remember your dissembling from years ago, when the transition to responsive layout was happening.

I pointed out that my news site had a Google News rating from 2003. There's over 5000 pages of content on the site. Over 50% of the platforms that access it are from mobile phones. I was asking for help from someone who had specific recommendations on implementing the Google News tags within a DREAMWEAVER template. This is an "Adobe Support" community. The answers should be relevant to getting Adobe Dreamweaver operative for the user asking the question.

"NOTE:  Templates are fine for small - medium sized websites, up to approx 50 pages.  Beyond that, you will need a more robust solution with server-side databases, dynamic scripts and a backend CMS to manage your data.  WordPress is one example of a database driven site but certainly not the only one."

One could determine that I was way over that 50 page threshold by noting that the site is over 18 years old. The gerneralized information you provide is of little help. If you really have knowledge about a CMS solution that is set up to optimize the Google News tags, I would love to hear about that. To get a remedial capacity to actually provide a relevant answer to that topic, you can beging to familiarize yourself with their guidance: Google News Publisher Center 

Most CRM reccommendations try to steer one to WordPress solutions. THAT is "OK" for that 50 page beginner. I already stated that I really don't want to hear about Word Press. I'm still interested tin that if anyone has seen a responsive DW template for Google News implementation.

[BenPleysier]

I think that the problem stems from the fact that @Nancy OShea and you are talking about two different templates. Where Nancy talks about the Dreamweaver templating system, you are talking about custom templates.

That does not infer that I agree with your what you have written above. You may have noticed that Nancy was the only one brave enough to reply to your very specialised subject. 

Enough said. Getting back to your orignal post, what is the question? I only see statements which require no answer.

Please elaborate, preferably with an accompanying link to the site.

[Teledyol]

Ben, 

I have trouble tolerating Gold Silver Pro etc. advisers who hijack a topic to a a generalized response. The primary problem stems from the software companies shiting their customer service to online forums. It's a cost saving measure, but it usually wastes time for the victim.

"I think that the problem stems from the fact that @Nancy OShea and you are talking about two different templates."

We're almost talking about two different topics altogether. The question is rather specific and would take someone who is familiar with SETTING UP a Google News, CMS and DReamweaver site. Unfortunately the people who do that don't usually hang out on Support Forums answering hundreds of questions. It's the sort of thing that an Adobe employee might be familiar with some who is actually doing it.

So, if you can't address the specifics, you should NOT be yakking about how difficult it is.

[BenPleysier]

I thought that I was being civilied in my reply, but I see that I am now also being attacked. Your problem, which seems to extend beyond this topic, cannot be handled here.

So that this does nor flare up any further, I am locking this conversation.

[Liam Dilley]

I think Nancy gave some info, you can take it or leave it. I agree with you it was not really what you were looking for but there is no need for the attitutde.

In terms of your query. It does not matter what software you use to code to be able to bring those over. You were very vague on your current setup so it is hard to fully help you.

Adobe GoLive is pretty old and crappy but just accessing those same files and editing them through DW will just be straight forward and no different.

When you say "template" I am pretty sure you are not actually talking about a template in the sense of what a DW template is or a CMS template and so on. When you mention this what actually are you refering to, it is again something you not clarified with the complaining 🙂

I got an idea of what I think you are saying but I do not want to make assumptions. You need to be clearer.

In terms of google news and something I have implemented several times - I have never done the tagging, I am suprised that google has an update in that format rather then just having it as a legacy solution and being google not even turning that off all together.

Every time I have implemented this it has been the recomended method which is the XML feed. This is basically a specific google news "Sitemap" which is a representation of your news pages and basic data that feeds into google.

https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/9606710?hl=en

As you have set it up (And this part more for anyone reading) there is quite a strict validation not just with the data but what appears on the page, google do not like your own ad's etc on the rendered news pages for example, you already having something are probably already aware of this.

So that is the prefered way of doing things but as you have a solution working I am still not sure what you are asking because be it DW or something like visual studio code you will be able to edit the html files you have and make any changes you need or want to do.

[Nancy OShea]

@Teledyol,

I have no idea who you are.  You are an anonymous product user.  Your forum profile indicates no recent activity in THIS DW user-to-user community.  You posted no URL to your site for reference.  You said nothing about your coding skills, workflow, etc... So to infer that anyone here should "know" you or what your site looks like is absurd.  We have no information except what you tell us. 

You asked about Templates.  As I said, Dreamweaver Templates (DWT files)  are special DW documents used to manage your site.  However, they are not fit for use with a 5,000 page static website.  That's not to say you can't use DW, just not DW's proprietary templating system.  A better fit might be to build a custom content management system (CMS) site in DW if you have the skills for it. 

A CRM is customer relations management technology.  What that has to do with this topic, I don't know.  Perhaps at some point you used Business Catalyst (now discontinued) with optional server-side CRM modules???   If so, Adobe Experience Manager + Microsoft Dynamics 365 CRM data might be of interest to you.  See link below.

https://business.adobe.com/products/experience-manager/experience-manager-and-microsoft-dynamics.htm...

If not, I urge to seek solutions that fit your specific criteria on Google or Bing.  Hopefully you'll find what you need.

Goodbye & best of luck.  🙂

[Teledyol]

Nancy,

"You asked about Templates" - I asked about templates that worked with DW and Google News. I'm still asking about that. One could create a CMS with Dreamweaver that would work with the Mobile First Googlebot

If you were going to provide relevant info about CM solutions you could suggest the CMS Matrix instead of the generic three:

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