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Help with a shopping cart idea

Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Hi All,
I have been asked if I can do a shoppinng cart for a friend and initially I said yea Iknow of some ready made carts out there in ASP ..

But I wondered if we could do our own in DW with some extensions?

Is this hard or very complex?

Id say I was an intermetiate coder in VB and VBs and can follow most instructions or manuals and would like to do our own if it wasnt such a mammoth task..

Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks
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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Tag2007 wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have been asked if I can do a shoppinng cart for a friend and
> initially I said yea Iknow of some ready made carts out there in ASP

> But I wondered if we could do our own in DW with some extensions?


http://www.cartweaver.com/

HTH,

Pete.
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http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
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Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Thanks that looks exactly like what i need..

I see its in the US do you think it will be compatable with UK users?
I have to read some more...
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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Tag2007 wrote:
> Thanks that looks exactly like what i need..
>
> I see its in the US do you think it will be compatable with UK users?
> I have to read some more...
> Thank You

I've used the PHP version on UK websites without any problems.

They have newsgroups at news://support.cartweaver.com for any queries.

Regards,

Pete.
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Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Thanks for that Ive found their forum and put up a post.

Can I ask you guys what I need to consider for payments and gateways,
My friend has the little machine at work for taking credit card payments.so do I just get the cart to take the card details and save them to a database for retrieval or whats the way this is done?

Sorry to ask, Ive done this with paypal but never needed a secure set up if I do need this?

Thanks again
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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Tag2007 wrote:
> Thanks for that Ive found their forum and put up a post.
>
> Can I ask you guys what I need to consider for payments and gateways,
> My friend has the little machine at work for taking credit card
> payments.so do I just get the cart to take the card details and save
> them to a database for retrieval or whats the way this is done?
>
> Sorry to ask, Ive done this with paypal but never needed a secure set
> up if I do need this?
>
> Thanks again

The customer needs an Internet Merchant Account. This is different from the
Merchant Account he will have for the POS terminal, and if the bank notice
that a POS terminal is used for internet purchases, he will probably be in
breach of his contract with the bank - they may take away his Merchant
Account altogether. The bank *will* notice, because of the large number of
CNP (customer not present) entries he will be making - even if there are no
chargebacks (which is the big risk of all internet shopping carts).

The fact that he already has a merchant account will help when he applies
for an IMA. He *will* be paying higher fees for an IMA.

When writing the shopping cart, you NEVER store card holders details on your
site. If you do, and your site is ever compromised, *you* may be held liable
for any fraudulent transactions made on any card details stolen from you.
Obivously if you are a massive company, there are business reasons why you'd
want you own control of all data. But if that was the case, you wouldn't
have to ask! <g>

For most small shopping carts (i.e, bigger than paypal), I take the
following approach. I won't claim that it's perfect, or the cheapest, but it
works (and I'm open to suggestions on improving it).

1. Make sure that the web site to hold the shopping cart is on a dedicated
IP address. You should then purchase an SSL certificate for that site.
2. All parts of the shopping cart which collect *any* customer data - e.g.
name and address - should be protected by the SSL.
3. All monetary transactions should be handled by a card payment processor,
e.g Worldpay, Metacharge. Let *them* deal with the credit card details. All
you need to pass are sufficient transaction details so that you can audit
back to the original sale if there are any queries.

Note that some payment processor company can also help you set up the IMA
account (Metacharge certainly do), and this may save you some hassle/money.
Otherwise you need to have the IMA account details to pass to the payment
processor.

Once you think you're ready to go live, test it thoroughly. Then test it
again, and test a little more. Test for invalid transactions are well as
valid ones. The card companies have test numbers you can use, but also do a
few live payment tests before releasing it to the client (do it on your own
card, then refund it through the payment processors interface).

HTH,

Pete.
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http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
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Skype ID: acutecomputing


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Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Thanks Pete
Thats great help for me in a direction to reaserch.
At our web server, we have a windows hosting account so it says we can add shared SSL or Pro SSL and there are several options.
Can you enlighten me as to what we need for this?

Thanks for the info on the POS machines, It was my automatic presumption that lead to think thats how cards would be processed , so the client-my friend would need to set up his bank account himself at his bank then give me his IMA details to hook up into the payment gateway in the cart? is that right?

Sorry..

And can I ask what UK payment gateways are best and do you know of any carts ready set up to use these gateways, most things im finding are US based?

Thank you very much
Regards
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LEGEND ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Tag2007 wrote:
> Thanks Pete
> Thats great help for me in a direction to reaserch.
> At our web server, we have a windows hosting account so it says we
> can add shared SSL or Pro SSL and there are several options.
> Can you enlighten me as to what we need for this?

Don't use shared SSL, get a dedicated one for your site - you'll need a
dedicated IP address as well. Your host should be able to give you some
guidance if you explain what you want to do.

> Thanks for the info on the POS machines, It was my automatic
> presumption that lead to think thats how cards would be processed ,
> so the client-my friend would need to set up his bank account himself
> at his bank then give me his IMA details to hook up into the payment
> gateway in the cart? is that right?

Yes, that's correct.

> And can I ask what UK payment gateways are best and do you know of
> any carts ready set up to use these gateways, most things im finding
> are US based?

In the UK I generally work with MetaCharge, but few carts can work directly
with it - you have to get your hands dirty. Worldpay has a good reputation,
can be expensive, but most carts can accept it straight out of the box.
Don't discount US companies, but it's best to ensure that they can work in
GBP; you'll lose enough cash in transaction charges without adding currency
exchange issues in as well!

Regards,

Pete.
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Explorer ,
Aug 19, 2006 Aug 19, 2006
Thanks Pete

Its an expensive process already tallying up the extra costs needed to do this....

Thanks for your guidance I may be back, I have written to the gateway you suggested and asked for their advice on how I do this

Ive written to the cartweaver guys too as I do like the look of their software and although I can hand code Id rather not have to try a complete cart on my own from scratch as a favor....

But if they buy the software and are willing to pay for the IMA and fees there then I guess we may have a go at this...

Thanks again for your feedback
Regards
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LEGEND ,
Aug 20, 2006 Aug 20, 2006
Tag2007 wrote:
> Thanks again for your feedback

No problem! Glad I could help.

Pete.
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LEGEND ,
Aug 20, 2006 Aug 20, 2006
In the demo files that come with my cart

http://www.charon.co.uk/charon_cart_v3/

After items have been added to the cart, they can be sent directly to
Paypal. This negates the needs to store customer info and orders in your own
database. Thus simplifying the process a bit.

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http://www.charon.co.uk/charoncart
Charon Cart 3
Shopping Cart Extension for Dreamweaver MX/MX 2004





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Explorer ,
Aug 20, 2006 Aug 20, 2006
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Hi Jules,

Thank you,
I did find your site and looked at your cart, and it seems very good to, the only thing is Im sure if this goes ahead although its a small company I think it will be credit card transactions I will need to set up along with paypal too I guess.
Can your cart accomodate for this or would it involve a lot of custom coding?

Thanks again
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