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Muse and Dreamweaver

Explorer ,
Dec 26, 2023 Dec 26, 2023

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...this is great. Adobe has made Muse unusable, and Dreamweaver developers aren't doing anything to update DW (although all the "expert" Muse community moderators are telling the Muse community to use DW... ) so our choice is to use an outdated, un-updated program (DW) and hope Adobe doesn't make IT non-functional.  I'd really like a solution that doesn't involve having to close this, ignore that, turn around three times and bark at the moon while holding down the ALT and Ctrl keys simultaneously. Thanks a lot, Adobe... glad to see my $60/month is being spend on what I need, as long as I define that need as being able to make pretty kitty cat pictures with AI.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 26, 2023 Dec 26, 2023

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Alternatives that I use for creative design:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

 

And for web development:

https://wappler.io/

Wappler, the only real Dreamweaver alternative.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 26, 2023 Dec 26, 2023

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...this is great. Adobe has made Muse unusable....

By @photo:staats

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No.

1. Adobe didn't DO anything to Muse.  It's exactly the same now as it was in Mar. 2018 when Adobe ended Muse support & development.

 

2. Meanwhile, everything else around Muse changed including the web, servers & operating systems it ran on.  If Muse suddenly stopped working, it's likely due to Muse's age and nothing Adobe did.

 

3. Muse users had years to find other solutions.  Most jumped ship immediately and switched to WordPress with the Elementor plugin or Block themes that offer visual layout ease from the WP dashboard.  Other's chose Webflow or Squarespace.  There are also lists of other alternatives mentioned in the Muse Community forum (now Read Only).  

 

I'm sorry you waited too long.  But that's not Adobe's fault.

 

Going forward, your best long term web solution will depend entirely on your skills as a developer/coder and what your site requirements are.   Make a list and we'll do all we can to direct you to some good options.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Explorer ,
Dec 26, 2023 Dec 26, 2023

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You're wrong.  Muse worked right up to the time of the latest Creative Cloud app and you know it.  Don't sit there and blame me because my clients want a program the can make updates with.  And I'm not a coder, ma'am. I'm a photographer and writer, have been for 49 years and 43 countries .  You're dead wrong; I can point to the day Muse stopped working and it coincides with a Creative Cloud app update.  I don't need good options; I need what I pay $720/year for to work.  Period.  And I find it very interesting that the Muse discussion forum is now read only.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 26, 2023 Dec 26, 2023

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 I'm not a coder, ma'am. I'm a photographer and writer, have been for 49 years and 43 countries . 


By @photo:staats

 

 That is very obvious when I trundle off to your website. This is what I see on an iPhone 14 Pro Max.

BenPleysier_0-1703657502718.png

 

How do you expect this octogenarian to read this without having to magnify the the page?

 

Muse is dead! Dreamweaver is showing its age! Time to move on!

 

As far as Adobe is concerned, they do not give two hoots about you or me, they are only interested in large corporations that are able to pay much more than the feebily $720/year. Go and have a look at Adobe Experience Cloud solutions https://business.adobe.com/.

 

You do not need good options? That's your choice. Good luck and the best wishes for 2024.

 

 

Wappler, the only real Dreamweaver alternative.

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Explorer ,
Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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...first off,  it would be nice (and relevant) if your thousand dollar toy phone would display the phone version of the site... it'd make reading the copy a bit easier during your trundling.  And that's one of the things I like about Muse, by the way, is the ability to build desktop, tablet and phone versions of the same site.  Second, I'm a bit put off by "experts" coming up with "fixes" that are just wrong.  One "expert" recommends that, during the migration to Dreamweaver, I should download Filezilla in order to get the current site off the remote server; said advice seems to ignore the fact that Dreamweaver has an FTP function that allows both puts and gets... 

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Community Expert ,
Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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Everyone is wrong except you, is that what you're selling?  Sorry but I'm not buying it.  😄

 

Like I said above, everything around Muse changed including Creative Cloud.  Muse stayed exactly the same.  Failure of Muse was inevitable.  Every user knew it. 

 

Clinging to End of Life software well-beyond it's expiration date is the risk YOU chose to take.  Cursing the darkness is not a solution at this point.  Turn on the lights & find a replacement.  If not Dreamweaver, then use another code editor.  

 

PS.  FileZilla is a dedicated S/FTP client that is:

  • stable & secure,
  • in active development,
  • updated regularly,
  • recommended by almost all commercial hosting providers.

DW's onboard FTP can't compete with it. 

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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Not selling anything, ma'am. Just want what I pay/paid for to work.

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Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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Just want what I pay/paid for to work.

By @photo:staats

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If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

 

CONTACT ADOBE SUPPORT:
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Online Chat: https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html?rghtup=autoOpen
Twitter: https://twitter.com/adobecare

Good luck.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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New Here ,
Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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It's evident that the transition from Adobe Muse to Dreamweaver poses challenges, especially with Adobe's focus on AI-centric applications rather than addressing Dreamweaver updates. Users express frustration with the current reliance on an outdated program (DW) and express concerns about potential functionality issues. There's a desire for a straightforward solution without complex workarounds. The sentiment reflects disappointment in the value proposition of the Adobe subscription, which seems skewed towards graphic design rather than addressing the needs of web developers.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 27, 2023 Dec 27, 2023

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With the recent uptick in bot activity, I'm never quite sure if I'm responding to a human or not.

 

In any case, a product user-to-user community has no control over the business choices Adobe makes. Those come from corporate decision makers; not from product users & unpaid forum volunteers. 

 

As fellow users, we're more than happy to help customers with their product questions and any "how to" guidance they may need.  But ultimately it's the customer's responsibility to choose which products & workflows to use. 

 

For scalable B2B and B2C solutions, see Adobe Experience Manager (AEM) and Adobe Commerce (Magento). 

 

For social media content creators or photographers seeking a web presence, see Adobe Express and Adobe Portfolio (included with Creative Cloud).

 

Hope that helps.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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