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Can I use single teacher license to teach a single small class using my personal computer only?

New Here ,
Jul 17, 2021 Jul 17, 2021

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I find Adobe licensing to be extremely confusing. 

 

The device and named licenses terms seem to be saying must be used by schools say they START at hundreds of devices or users.  I am a single teacher at a tiny k-12 school (a total of 5 seniors last year)  I would like to add a video class, but we have no budget, so I would be bringing in my own personal computer, and would be willing to purchase a single teacher license to do so.  The computer will not be used by any other teachers or classes.

 

I'll just skip adobe and use free software if it's a problem, but can I do this, or am I forced to use some licensing structure designed for institutions hundreds of times our size?  This would be coming out of my pocket, and I can barely swing the sub $300 price for the single teacher license.

 

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LEGEND ,
Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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It depends what you mean by "teach".

If you mean "use the software in front of students and show them what to do and how it works" - sure.

If you mean "let students use the software on your computer", that is a breach of the license. They each need their own license, even if they are all using the same one computer, and even if it's the teacher's computer. You can't share a regular license with students, staff, friends, colleagues, or family - not even a spouse or child.

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New Here ,
Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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I don't understand how this is possible, though... the shared device license thing says the minimum is some multi-thousand dollar minimum with a massive number of devices.  Am I missing some other correct licensing option for tiny classes like mine?  It just doesn't seem possible that my only option for using software that would be $20 a month for me is somehow thousands of dollars a year to teach a small class where some even smaller yet subset of the students might use it for an hour and a half or so of editing a week.  If so, I need to learn some new software and stop using adobe.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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Adobe don't expect you to take out an enterprise license and use Device Licensing. It probably isn't even possible for you, because you are not, personally, a large enterprise with many students or employees.

 

It is clear, though, that they do not accommodate shared computer use otherwise. Teaching students who each have a laptop and each take out their own license. I have heard of people taking desperate and illegal measures to do their teaching, and to avoid that you probably do need to rethink your plans. If you are teaching the PRINCIPLES of graphic design, video production etc. you certainly can find equally suitable free software. If you are teaching the SPECIFICS of Adobe software, then it seems reasonable to insist your students take out subscriptions, and Adobe will offer them a heavy discount.

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Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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OK. I must be missing the heavy discount part.  Their site says enterprise licensing is required for k-12 schools, yet none of the options they have listed makes any sense at my scale.  That's what led me to their teacher discount which seems to indicate it's ok so long as I own the computer rather than the school, but a bit ambiguous if others will use it.

 

So are you just talking about doing individual plans like one techer plan and then a separate student plan for each student that might use it?  Even if I only have 15 kids take the class, that's still nearly four thousand dollars which seems to be no cheaper than what they offer for schools 100x our size and probably breaks down to something like $50/hour for each kid that actually ends up doing a bit of editing in the class througout the year since maybe two or three would be doing some editing once a week while others storyboard, shoot.  Hell, by the time we setup and tear down every day in our shared space, we'll be lucky to get in 40 minutes a day of TOTAL time to do all of the above.

 

I'm teaching a basic video production class (school news, that kind of thing), though I thought we might get into some basic sfx, maybe design a school news logo, and create lower third chyron if we have time.

 

I need to have a proposal in to the school director by first thing tomorrow morning, so I'm not sure what to tell him at this point.  I just thought it would be easier since I'm already familiar with PR, AE, and PS from projects I did a few years ago.  I was hoping to at least be able to ballpark it for him if it looks doable, then iron out any details with adobe employees (if I can get them to return an email) next week.

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LEGEND ,
Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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"OK. I must be missing the heavy discount part. " $60 reduced to $20 for the first year and $30 for subsequent years. "Their site says enterprise licensing is required for k-12 schools" You are not a school, you work for a school. The school needs to negotiate such things as an entity. "yet none of the options they have listed makes any sense at my scale." That sounds to be the case.

 

"So are you just talking about doing individual plans like one techer plan and then a separate student plan for each student that might use it?" That's really up to the students. You cannot set up 15 anonymous plans for 15 students; the 15 students each need to take out their own personal plan. This is unlikely to happen for a non-specialist course." ... seems to be no cheaper than what they offer for schools 100x our size "  Not sure why you would expect to get it for less than a larger school?? 

 

I see no benefit whatever in training your nonspecialist students to use expensive professional apps at the top of the range, so that a few might do hobby editing. If you are teaching an art class you don't start by buying the most expensive art materials and tools.

 

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New Here ,
Jul 18, 2021 Jul 18, 2021

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OK, thx.

 

Why would I expect that a tiny class at a tiny school would pay less than hundreds of students at a large institution?

 

Other than the obvious, you mean? 

 

I've licensed a number of things both through the school and personally over the years, but Adobe appears to have the most onerous licencing terms I've encountered by a mile.

 

Oh, well.  I'll have to dig in a bit more to verify the details, but AFAIK at a glance, the entire suite of Logic, Final Cut, Motion, etc looks like it is $200 for a single educational machine with no futher heeadaches.  Between that and something like gimp for some splash screen graphics, that should probably cover it.  In keeping a production schedule, it's unlikely we'd have much time to dig into AE anyway.

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You seem to be expecting that a small school should pay less PER STUDENT than a large class at a large school. That doesn't match what I'd expect. If you think the large class will pay less PER CLASS then I suspect you're reading the price list wrong...

 

Indeed, these tools are far too much for a "glancing visit" class  especially AE. You couldn't really get rid of the terror and bafflement in less than 2 weeks, it seems to me.

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