Adobe flash player installs McAfee

[brakerbraker]

I have just updated adobe flash player since my browser requested it and found that adobe has installed McAfee without me opting in to do so. I am furious about it, and can only refer to a previous discussion point copied in here. Why does Adobe do this it will drive customers away in their droves.

I have experienced this as well.

I'm not going to give any screen shots. What I am going to do, is say that I've been using photoshop since 5, and been a creative cloud subscriber and defender since the first version. I got an email from adobe to install a flash update, which I did, after navigating to adobe on my own to make sure there was no malware attack. I then installed a flash update, from your site. A day later, mcafee is installed on my computer, without any permission given by me.

I don't give a flying f- if you have an 'opt out' option in there, and it was somehow hidden by ad blocking. As any designer who is worth their salt knows, opt out is basically just a way of funneling 90% of users to an option while maintaining an argument that you aren't 'forcing' the option. I'm a paying customer who loves and evangelizes your product, and you just stabbed me in the back. F- you. If this ever happens again, I'm done. End this **** right now. You know it is morally indefensible, no matter what the economic reasoning by some f-wit manager. No, I'm not going to be reasonable. This is not acceptable behavior. Fix it.

[into_the_unknowm99208135]

Here's the deal folks. To play Devils Advocate here, this is what their support doesn't want to tell you, but, it should be plain as day...

If you have adblock installed and you don't want McAfee, you are not a paying customer and they don't care what you think.

This company is in it for the cash, like every other company in history. Adobe has a few ways to try and monetize their platform. One is by you buying "professional" versions of their software (which don't have this McAfee issue, because you are giving them money directly), Installing McAfee, for which they get a kickback as a company or Ad revenue.

You people above who have an adblocker, are trying to get Adobe Flash for free and don't want McAfee are not supporting them monetarily at all, so they don't care what your opinion is of their software or their policies. They will try to get you to funnel money to them whichever way they can. You want everything free with no ads, no anything and....  yeah... companies want something different.

So, its you vs them. You try to get what you want for free and they try to make you pay, somehow, someway... anyway they can!

It's ALL about that green cash dollar! Remember that! If you aren't supporting them with cash, they don't care what you think, at all, whatsoever.

Cheers.

[jachu]

Just had this happen, and likely had the same issue as everyone else with an adblocker.

And I feel compelled to let Adobe know this is dishonest and I don't plan on ever letting them see a dime of my money if this is how they want to operate.

I can find alternatives for other paid programs you sell.

[AshWoods]

Well said, I couldn't agree more.  It's underhanded and dispicable.  I understand they need revenue for offering it free, but 'sneaking' it on to your system if your not deft enough to notice is unacceptable (seems like they took a page out of the microsoft playbook on that one!)

Every time I update (and omg, it wants to update constantly!), I turn that off, cause I made the mistake once and it was painful.  However, I don't want to go on further on 'should or shouldn't's; but instead have a pragmatic question:

Is there a way to let it update automatically and NOT get McAfee?  I'm too afraid to try...

UPDATE: I since saw the post from the Adobe employee unmistakenly claiming it would NOT install any 3rd party software, so I'm crossing my fingers and giving it a shot.

[I_lovejava1]

McAfee IS a legitamate piece of software, however I don't like how they provide a "opt-out" option instead of "opt-in". This is like "check this box to NOT be a donor"

Read terms & agreements like a lawyer and don't install it if you find anything suspicious.

Always opt for custom installation settings and uncheck anything that seems unfamiliar. When you find a offer for a 3rd party software, click "Decline" instead of "Accept".

I'm not very annoyed about this because I always uncheck 3rd party programs. However, I'm glad that the offer is a legitamate piece of software and they don't try to install any virus or bitcoin-miner onto my PC.

[LabPartners]

Adobe you are so foolish who do you think you're fooling. If you think these types of actions won't absolutely destroy you in the long run you're dead wrong. Deleting everything of yours off my pc now. NO ONE wants Mcafee. Not even Mcafee!!! 

[Emiliano_Ferrari]

Im totally agree with the concern of the users here.. its been 2 years since the thread was open and still the same.. I've even restart de installation just to see where I missed the option to uncheck and no, there was no option in the downloader (after that and googleing it I read it was on the webpage before the download).. Its the most anoying thing to deal with these issues and you find the way to make it even worse! Congrats Adobe team! Clap clap.-

[defaultdunzu0ni2m2d]

"Be kind and respectful" - is what it says here in the community. At least they got it right. After years of being annoyed by this opt-in rubbish, ever fearing I forget to uncheck it, I thought I see what others say.

And here I am, what more is there to say, it is all said before.

If I weren't fully committed to the good stuff Adobe puts out, I would have stopped using that. Seeing there is no way of not using flash player.

As it is, at least I learned that the auto-update option will not force that shifty bit. So next time I will switch to that; though I think in general, there is heaps too much stuff being forced on us without us ever having any say in it. I mean, buy a new phone, like I just did, and see all the 'dark matter' that comes with it or gets installed soon after; or constantly pesters you to make a decision - like Adobe do in the case of flash player.

I reckon there ought to be law against it.

[Test Screen Name]

It will be solved forever in one month, as Flash Player will no longer be available. The last update ever has also been shipped. You may want to find a way of NOT using Flash Player as your installed player will shut down forever in a month.

[Nancy OShea]

Flash Player officially ends on Dec 31st at midnight

So not even 1 month left.  More like 2 -1/2 weeks.