Anchored frame that is run-around AND protrudes into margin?

[_Mats_Broberg_]

Hi,

FM 8.04, Win XP.

Is it in any way possible to create a small anchored frame (let's say 10 x 10 mm) that is run-around AND protrudes 1 or 2 mm into the left margin?

I need it for drop caps and have managed everything except the protrusion into the margin.

I can get protrusion into the margin by setting the anchored frame to "Outside column" or "Outside text frame" and then setting a negative value for "Distance from text column" - but then it isn't run around by the body text (despite inserting a text frame into the anchored frame and changing run-around properties).

Any ideas?

TIA,
Mats

[Arnis Gubins]

Mats,

Unfortunately, you're hitting the limits of anchored frame behaviour.
It's an either/or proposition. You can have run-arounds, but you can't
control the position except for placement at the start or end of a
paragraph.

An alternative, but clumsy and labour-intensive, is to set the start
positions (indents - first & left) of all of the document paratags to
be the desired offset (1-2mm) of the anchored frame. Then by setting
the frame to start at the beginning of the anchoring paratag (not set
with the indents), you will get the equivalent effect.

If this is just going to be a single location and won't be subject to
much editing (i.e. document reflow), then you could also consider
using a graphic frame set with runaround, which you can position
anywhere.

[_Mats_Broberg_]

Hi,

I suspected this. Will opt for the second alternative, after editing is finished.

Thanks,
Mats

[AxialInfo]

In case it matters for online viewing of the PDF, the downside of using graphic or anchored frames for drop caps is that the full word is not searchable because it's not a single string in the PDF.

[Arnis Gubins]

FWIW, a way to overcome the search inability is to set the frame
background to white and position it such that it covers the first
character of the word that is being drop-capped. This way you still
have the entire word for searching, but the first letter is hidden by
the opaque background and you only see the drop cap.