Change color on toolbar underline

[Guest]

I have found the fmtoolbar.ini file and I want to

change the color of the underline and font to red when the toolbar button is clicked on. Is there any way to do this?? Thanks in advance for all your help.

[Michael_Müller-Hillebrand]

Ed,

What FrameMaker version are you talking about?

Do you want to assign a character format by clicking a button on the toolbar or do you want two manual format actions to happen together (setting the color and the underline). To complicate matters (because there is more than one option): Have you decided which type of underline you like best?

- Michael

[Guest]

Michael, Thanks for your reply. I am trying to make it the same as the character designer. I am using FM 8.0p277 and we are going to upgrade to 9.0 after the first of the year. The default line is what we are using now and the color needs to be red. I am using the standard colors for strikeout and underline. We send everything we do over to the Idaho Legislature for review and after they approve it we remove all the strikeout text and underline formatting and update the Administrative Code with what is left. Thanks for your help.

Have a Great Day

Ed Hawley

Office of Administrative Rules

332.1823

ed.hawley@adm.idaho.gov

[Van Kurtz]

Ed,

It is unclear what you mean by "...make it the same as the character designer."

The underline button in the toolbar simply underlines the selected text. IF that text has color, then the underline is the same color. At least that is the way it works in Frame 9.

I think you are trying to make the underline button also apply color to the text. If so, I do not believe you can change this. If you are applying the text color through the character designer, either directly or through a character style, then clicking the underline button should do what you want.

Note that you can also apply the underline from the character designer. If you want, you can define a character style that applies both red text color and the underline, which will be red also.

If I am misunderstanding your workflow, let me know.

Van

[Guest]

Van, I was thinking that I could change the toolbar button to do the same thing as the Character Designer. Every once in awhile that toolbar button gets used, not very often, but it can mess us up when all the formatting is removed and new formatting is imported. The reason the formatting is changed is the font size is larger for the Legislature to review the documents. We go from a 10pt font to a 12pt font so they can read it easier. We charge the agencies who submit dockets to us by the page so the font is smaller than what the Legislature reviews. They don't pay for anything we send to them. For some reason the underline from the toolbar button is lost and never to be seen again when the formatting is removed and reapplied from a different template. If that won't work that is the way it is. I didn't know if it could be done or not. It sounds like it might be easier to disable the toolbar button and not worry about it. Thanks for your help.

Have a Great Day

Ed Hawley

Office of Administrative Rules

332.1823

ed.hawley@adm.idaho.gov

[Van Kurtz]

Ed,

For some reason the underline from the toolbar button is lost and never to be seen again when the formatting is removed and reapplied from a different template.

The underline button is ADDING formatting to something already formatted. If you then remove the formatting and reapply it from another template, yes the underlining is lost---you have removed the formatting.

You could define a character tag called review and assign it 12 pt, red, underlined. If you also review whole paragraphs, you could also create a paragraph tag with these character format. Then tag the content that is to be reviewed with these tags. Send if off for review.

When it comes back, simply search for these tags and remove them, returning the formatting back to its original form. Then import the new formatting.

IF you want the underlining to be retained in the new formatting, then include the review tags in the second template but remove the red color and change the font size to 10 pt. When you import the second set of formats, the tagged content is changed accordingly...no red, no 12 pt, but underlined.

Van

[peter minneapolis]

ed.hawley@adm.idaho.gov wrote:

Van, I was thinking that I could change the toolbar button to do the same thing as the Character Designer. Every once in  awhile that toolbar button gets used, not very often, but it can mess us up when all the formatting is removed and new formatting is imported. The reason the formatting is changed is the font size is larger for the Legislature to review the documents. We go from a 10pt font to a 12pt font so they can read it easier. We charge the agencies who submit dockets to us by the page so the font is smaller than what the Legislature reviews. They don't pay for anything we send to them.  For some reason the underline from the toolbar button is lost and never to be seen again when the formatting is removed and reapplied from a different template. If that won't work that is the way it is. I didn't know if it could be done or not. It sounds like it might be easier to disable the toolbar button and not worry about it. Thanks for your help.

Have a Great Day

Ed Hawley

Office of Administrative Rules

332.1823

ed.hawley@adm.idaho.gov

It sounds as if you want to avoid misuse of the underline formatting button, and perhaps some others.

The FrameMaker customization manual here: http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/framemaker/ describes how to make changes to menus and toolbars. It's possible to remove items from menus and toolbars. Would that work for you?

HTH

Regards,

Peter

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Peter Gold

KnowHow ProServices

[Guest]

Thanks Peter, Removing the button from the toolbar sounds like it will be the easiest to do, or the only way to do it. Thanks for your help

Have a Great Day

Ed Hawley

Office of Administrative Rules

332.1823

ed.hawley@adm.idaho.gov

[Arnis Gubins]

Ed,

Unfortunately, you can't force the various format buttons to apply defined styles, they trigger pre-defined fcode operators only.

What I would recommend is that you create a single character style (and call it "zUnderline" for example) that applies a red colour and the desired underline only (i.e. use Shift-F8 to set everything As Is and change only the colour and underline). Then you can use the keyboard shortcut F8 and press the first letter (i.e. "z") of the Character tag name and then hit Enter to quickly apply it to any selected text.

This also gives you the benefit of being able to re-define the tag to quickly and easily remove the underline and colour when you have to update the file in a later step.