Combined Font (Japanese)

Report · Jun 22, 2011

Hi,

I'm using FM10 on Windows 7 64bit and trying to localize English FM document to Japanese.

I have big trouble with "Combined Fonts".

For expamle,

In new fm document, I create new combine font (for expample "Koduka Mincho" + "Couriere New")

Then I create 3 paragraphs (Paragraph Tag is Body):

1st. Only Jpanese Font.

2nd. Only English Font.

3rd. Contain Both Font

Finally, I change Font Family of Body Tag to combined font I created.

Result:

1st. paragraph : OK

2nd. paragraph : OK

3rd. paragraph : NG! Only English Fonts are changed into "Couriere New". Japanse fonts are "MS Mincho" (Default Japanese Font).

Moreover

When I type Japanese letters in 3rd. paragraph : Japanese font is still "MS Mincho" (NG).

When I type Japanese letters in new paragraph : Japanese font is "Koduka Mincho" (OK).

How can I solve this problem?

Help. This is serious problem.

(Should I ask this question in Japanese forum?)

Report · Jun 22, 2011

Shingo,

I do not completely understand the first steps of your testing. But it does not look like a standard process, you would not apply a certain font at first (thereby creating a format override) and then later change the paragraph format setting.

Just create a paragraph format with the new combined font. Create a new paragraph without any overrides. Add text using an English keyboard. Then add text using a Japanese keyboard setting. If you rather want to copy and paste some font from elsewhere, make sure to use Edit > Paste Special > Unicode Text (to avoid pasting any formatting in the clipboard data).

- Michael

Report · Jun 22, 2011

Hi, Michael

Thank you for your reply!

And I'm sorry that my post was confusing. I'll try to explain again.

---- Preparation ----

1. Create new document.

2. Create New Combined font (MyCombinedFont), e.g. "Kozuka Mincho" + "Courier New"

3. Create New Paragraph (MyPara) on Paragraph designer

4. Font family of MyPara is MyCombinedFont

Font family of "Body" paragraph is "Times new roman", Language "US English"

Font family of "MyPara" paragraph is "MyCombinedFont", Language "Nihongo"

---- Experiment(1) -----

1. Apply "Body" paragraph at insertion point.

2. Type letters. Letters are byte character only (English)

Font is "Times new roman"

3. Select letters and change paragraph "Body" into "MyCombinedFont" => Font changed "Times new roman" into "Courier New"

[OK]

---- Experiment(2) -----

1. Apply "Body" paragraph at insertion point.

2. Type letters. Letters are double-byte character only (Japanese Kanji).

Because font for Japanese character is not defined in "Body" paragraph, font is "MS Mincho" (default)

3. Select letters and change paragraph "Body" into "MyCombinedFont" => Font changed "MS Mincho" into "Kozuka Mincho"

[OK]

---- Experiment(3) -----

1. Apply "Body" paragraph at insertion point.

2. Type letters. Letters are byte and double-byte character (Composite of English and Japanese Kanji).

Fonts are "Times new romand" for byte character and "MS Mincho" for double-byte character.

3. Select letters and change paragraph "Body" into "MyCombinedFont" => Font of byte character changed "Times new roman" into "Courier New"

But font of double-byte character never changed.

[NG]

---- Experiment(4) -----

1. Select letters in Experiment(2) (MyPara is applied)

2. Change paragraph into "Body" => Kanji character changed into "?" (No Kanji font)

[OK]

---- Experiment(5) -----

1. Select letters in Experiment(3) (MyPara is applied)

2. Change paragraph into "Body" => Kanji character still "MS Mincho"

[NG]

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Thanks

Report · Jun 23, 2011

Shingo,

I can not see how your experiment 3 would be relevant. So I guess you are all set, as your experiments 1, 2, and 4 are all OK.

- Michael

Report · Jun 23, 2011

Hmmmmm.....

Simply saying

"Font of double byte letter in paragraph which contains single byte and double byte letters can not be changed forever,

once it is applied the paragraph format whose font family is single byte letter font"

For example,

If I type single byte letters and double letters with default "Body" paragraph,

font of double byte letter can not be changed.

Therefore I must define paragraph design perfectly before I type letters....

Report · Jun 23, 2011

Well,

I would recommend to work with a template that uses the Combined Font throughout out and avoid any on-the-fly formatting. IMO Thanks to the power of Combined Fonts it is not necessary to have paragraph formats for Western text.

- Michael