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I lose text when publishing to a pdf

Explorer ,
Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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I am working to edit and republish a book that was originally done in FrameMaker 7. All is going well except that when I publish to a pdf document I lose a font that is used in the heading. It is a small cap font (Garamond Expert MT) that looks fine in the Framemaker file, but the text that uses that font disappears when I publish to a pdf.

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Which FrameMaker version are you using now and what is your process for creating the PDF?

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Explorer ,
Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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I am using the latest version of FrameMaker. FrameMaker updates my files for me. After I do some editing of the text I do this:

File >> Publish >> PDF >> Generate selected output

I have republished a dozen books this way and have never had this happen.

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Can you give us the point version of FM? FM2022 has a new process being used to create PDFs via the Save As and Publish methods now (the older Distiller route is still used in Print to Adobe PDF printer instance).

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Version: 16.0.4.1062

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Ok, so you're not using the latest version - FM2022 is the current one.

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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I am not sure what the issue is. Is the font visible in other Windows applications?

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Check this folder and see if your font is there:

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2022\fminit\fonts\adobe

If not, copy the font to this folder and try again.

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Sep 15, 2023 Sep 15, 2023

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Hi Donn:

 

Back in the days of FrameMaker 7, we were mostly using Type 1 fonts that were limited to 256 characters and so had to purchase expert sets to access additional glyphs (characters) like ligatures, small caps, etc. Modern OpenType fonts have broken that barrier and now include all of the glyphs in one font. Adobe Garamond Pro is included/installed with FrameMaker. Can you trying changing one heading and see if that takes care of it?

 

It's a daunting task to update all of the fonts in a book. If it does work, you could just change the headings for now, and then eventually come back and update all other paragraphs when you have some downtime. 

 

~Barb

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Sep 18, 2023 Sep 18, 2023

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Barb: It's a daunting task to update all of the fonts in a book.

In a case where an older TTF or PFM/PFB(T1) font is no longer working properly, it would be worth a try to use any of many web font conversion tools to regenerate it as OTF. This would allow you to completely replace FontNameG on your system with FontNameG, avoiding a tsunami of in-app renaming. I'm not sure it can be assumed that any emergent font fail is FM's fault. It might be Windows.
When and how FM would be directly affected by the following isn't known to me:
Adobe: PostScript Type 1 fonts end of support

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If Jeff or Rick's tips don't help, the next top suspect would be embed permission on what I presume is a legacy TTF or Type 1 (PFM) font.

 

And in any case, can it also be presumed that the smCAPs are directly mapped onto normal Roman lc codepoints, i.e. you type in "m" and it appears as "M".

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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Hi, @donnarms ,

I assume your "Garamond Expert MT" is an old Type1 font from Monotype.

And the expert sets of the good old time have had sometimes issues as the encoding were not always standard encoding.

So did you try the route File->Print->print to PS-File using the Adobe PDF-Printer and then using the Distiller to make a PDF?

Does that work?

 

Regards

Stephan

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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Yes, the fonts print correctly using this method, but I lost the page size formatting (5 x 7.5) in. I fear I will have to change the font to something else although, as Barb said, it will be a duanting task. That font is used in occasional places throughout the book (368 pages). Is there a magic way I can make a universal font change all at once?

 

This has caught me between subscription issues, which is why I was using an older version. I am now using the 30 day trial version until I can jump throught the hoops with my employer to spring for another year. It usually takes about two weeks so I sould be OK.

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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Sorry, I was signed in under the wrong account.

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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Hi Donn:

 

Are you aware of File > Import > Formats? You can change the formatting in one file, export to PDF to see if it solves the issue, and if it does, you can then import the revised formatting to the other files in your book.

 

If this is a new feature for you, you will likely want to disable all format categories except for paragraph formats, so that you only import the paragraph styles into the other files. Even that may be too much if the other documents have overrides and exceptions. The way that you ensure that you only change the headings is to save the updated file as a new document, and then remove all the other styles from the catalog so that all you have left are the headings because when you import paragraph formats, it always  imports all of the paragraph formats.

 

See https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/index.html#t=using-framemaker%2FFrameMaker-2022%2Fuser....

 

~Barb

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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FYI, I am getting ready to release a script that allows you to select individual formats to update. Here is a sneak preview of the interface:

 

exportselectedformatsdialog.png

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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That is great, Rick!

 

~Barb

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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Hi, @donnarms ,

if you used character/paragraph formats just change the font there and import these new formats to the rest of your FM files as @Barb Binder mentioned.

If you manully changed the font of your text, then use the "Replace font" function of FM 2020 (v16).

 

If you want or must stay with the Garamont Expert MT you can change the printer driver to match your page size (I assume the page size problem is related to printer driver settings of the Adobe PDF printer).

 

Regards

Stephan

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Sep 16, 2023 Sep 16, 2023

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re: …you can change the printer driver to match your page size…

Which isn't always trivial. It used to be that you had to do this in Server Properties, and needed Admin capability to do so.

It might now be user-possible in Control Panel (aka Settings) » Devices » Printers and Scanners » Adobe PDF
[Manage] » Printer properties
/Advanced\
[Printing Defaults]
Adobe PDF Page Size: [Add]
Paper Names: [5x7.5in]
Width: 5 ⦿Inch
Height: 7.5 ⦿Inch
[Add/Modify]

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Sep 18, 2023 Sep 18, 2023

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Thank you all! I ended up downloading an almost identical font and doing the replace font thing from the fonts panel. So far so good.

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By the way,
☐ Small Caps
is an option in both Paragraph Format and Character Format. Theoretically, this allows you to use any font as a smCAP font (unless, of course, a contrasting typeface was the intent).

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