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Incorrect appearance of bullets

Community Beginner ,
Feb 20, 2024 Feb 20, 2024

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Hi everybody. I need some with bulleted list.

I work with FM 2017 (14.0.2.425). Most of the time I use it on my office PC, and everything goes smoothly in this case. Recently I was forced to use it on my notebook as well. I’ve installed the same FM version and placed all fonts used in the document to C:\Windows\Fonts. I’ve checked the “Myriad Roman” font is installed on both machines. However, here the problem began.

On my office computer, FM shows bullets fine (the following illustration):

correct_bullet.png

However, on my note book FM shows the following:

incorrect_bullets_note.PNG

I’ve also checked that Zapf fonts are present on both computers.

Any ideas what’s happening and how to solve the problem?

Thanks in advance

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Feb 20, 2024 Feb 20, 2024

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Hi. Are you getting any missing font messages to the FrameMaker Console when you open the document (View > Panels > Console)? Are both computers using the same version of Windows? I am assuming you are using Zapf Dingbats, which is an Adobe Type 1 font. These fonts have been depricated so you may want to switch to something built into Windows like Wingdings.

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Feb 20, 2024 Feb 20, 2024

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Hi frameexpert,

Console does not show any missing fonts. Both computers have Windows 10 Pro same version. And "Yes", Zapf Dingbats font is used. I could change it to smth else, but the key question is  - "Why bullets are different on two computers with absolutily equal settings?"

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If you go to Control Panel > Fonts, do you see that Zapf Dingbats is installed?

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Yes, I can see it installed

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Feb 20, 2024 Feb 20, 2024

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Don't use that legacy overlay Zapf Dingbat font (or WingDings or WebDings, for that matter; same base problem). Use a Unicode bullet if populated in Myriad Pro, such as:
• U+2022 BULLET
● U+25CF BLACK CIRCLE
⬤ U+2B24 BLACK LARGE CIRCLE
I don't have Myriad on my system to check. If your main font doesn't have the bullet you need, then use a font that does, such as Segeo UI Symbol, and set up a Character Format to apply it.

 

The bullet in Zapf resides at \x6c in FM notation, which is the same code point as
U+006C LATIN SMALL LETTER L
In any workflow where Zapf can't be mapped, you'll get an "l" instead of a bullet.

 

Getting away from legacy codepage/overlay fonts is increasingly important. If the workflow includes output to HTML, for example, these old overlays simply don't work; whereas most browsers perform any needed font fallback for unpopulated Unicode codepoints.

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