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PDF Setup Bookmark settings changing spontaneously

New Here ,
Jan 31, 2019 Jan 31, 2019

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When I generate a .pdf from a book file or an individual file, the bookmarks no long include only the Chapter, Heading 1, and Heading 2 Paragraph styles. Now, about half of the Paragraph catalog is listed in the Include Paragraphs section of the PDF Setup for Selected Files > Bookmarks tab:

I reset the Include Paragraphs to be only the ChapterTitle, Heading1, and Heading2:

Then I Save the file/book and print the PDF.

And the next time I need to print a pdf, I have to do it all over again.  I thought things like PDF set up/print settings were saved with the doc/book?

This started about a month ago.  I am using FrameMaker 11.  This happens with all of my FrameMaker individual files and book files, when I'm doing Save as PDF... or Print Book... (to PDF) or Save Book As... (pdf).

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Feb 05, 2019 Feb 05, 2019

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I'm not sure about your specific situation, but the settings can be changed when you import formats. I think they come over with Document Properties, but maybe Paragraph Tags. This has happened to us several times.

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Feb 06, 2019 Feb 06, 2019

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Hi

Thanks for the insight.  I did do an import formats across several files in December.  But since then I've saved a couple of my docs to pdf several times and the pdf settings aren't sticking. Each time I have to reset them and I haven't done any imports since the beginning of the year. Don't the pdf settings get saved when you save the book file?  

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Feb 06, 2019 Feb 06, 2019

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It's been a while since had to sort this same sort of issue out, but here's what I would try. First, I assume that all of your files can have the same document properties. Set 1 of them with the correct bookmarks. Import document properties and only document properties into all of the files. If you're in a book, make sure that the TOC file also has the same document properties. Make sure you are saving each one as you close them.

Second, I never Save As PDF. I can't quite remember all the details, but in our department over the last 15 years, it's only been trouble. I print as PDF. There may be no issues these days with Save As PDF, but it's just habit. If you do all of that, close the book, reopen, and the bookmarks are back to the way they were, then my next move would be uninstall and reinstall Acrobat and repeat the process. We ran into some PDF weirdness twice over a 6 month period last year and the fix was to uninstall/reinstall Acrobat Pro. We suspect that it had to do with auto updates in Creative Cloud, Acrobat DC, and Acrobat Reader. But, we can't prove exactly what. Maybe it was just a bug they fixed.

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Feb 06, 2019 Feb 06, 2019

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The problem happens when I do Save as pdf or Print Book, so it doesn't really matter.  The person who showed me the process used here did Save as not Print, and I honestly don't use either consistently.  Since it happens every time I do pdf in either form, it is probably the software.  I just have to track down the rigamorole that I have to go through to get Acrobat reinstalled after I uninstall it. 

I'm honestly just happy to know that the problem probably came from the format imports; that was driving me nuts.  We just rebranded and I updated ~700 files with new colors and whatnot.  But I did them folder by folder, not real doc book by doc book - a book file for each folder (only 4 of them) then import formats, rather than open book files individually (I have about 145 docs). I thought I'd only brought in paragraph, character, and table formats, but I guess not. 

Any way, thanks for your help.

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Feb 05, 2019 Feb 05, 2019

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Rick Quatro's Import Formats Special plugin lets you select which document properties you import, and you can deselect the PDF Properties on his dialog.

Or, you can make sure that the file you're importing from has the same PDF properties as the one you're importing to. If there's a reason they can't use the same properties, I refer you to Rick's script.

Seriously, the dude is a Frame world treasure.

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