Template for setting up figure captions with images

[Guest]

Hi

I received help last week on how I could ensure that my Figure captions stayed with my images, which has been great.

I have generated an image paragraph tag and ensure that it stays with the next paragraph. This works fine,

but my cross-reference of course goes directly to the Figure caption without letting me see the image as well.

How have other people set up their images and captions so that clicking on the cross-reference shows both

the caption and image?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best wishes,

Karen

[Van Kurtz]

Karen,

How have other people set up their images and captions so that clicking on the cross-reference shows both

the caption and image?

I am not sure what you mean be showing both. When the user clicks a link in a PDF, the PDF scrolls so the target is at the top of the screen. If the image is before the caption, then clicking the cross-reference causes the PDF to scroll the image off the screen.

I have the caption before the image, using only one paragraph tag. The image is inserted at the end of the caption paragraph and set to position below the current line. That way, referencing the caption always shows both because the image is below the caption.

[Guest]

Hi Van,

Thanks for your response. I probably didn't explain clearly what I meant. I really like having the

figure caption underneath the image and just wondered if there was some trick that would allow the

figure caption to be shown beneath the image while at the same time showing the image above it,

when cross-referenced. It somehow seems to me to be the most common place to have the figure caption.

If no one else responds I shall go with your method though.

Many thanks & best wishes,

Karen

[Jack DeLand]

I have inherited hundreds of pages with this problem, and would definitely be interested in any replies. If this method (keeping a figure above the caption) can't be done, is there an automated method of moving the caption text from bottom to above the figure?

Jack

[NL_Derek-56V59O]

Hi,

I had the same problem and solved by using two paragraph tags.

I have a tag FigureCaption with numbering of F:Figure <$chapnum>.<n+> and a tag FigHolder with text in 6 Pt White.

The FigHolder line carries the anchored frame with the figure, and contains a cross-reference of type <paranum> pointing to the FigureCaption; references to the figures use a cross-reference of type <paratext> pointing to the FigHolder.

When user clicks on the reference in the running text, the FigHolder is set at the top of the screen, which is what you want. During authoring I set the color of FigHolder to magenta so that I can see it; before printing I change it to white (actually I use Color Views but the effect is the same).

I do not see how you can automate this (but would be delighted if anyone could help).

One extra trick; set Autonumbering on FigHolder on and put a hyphen into it. Nobody sees it, but if you accidentally use a <paranum> link to FigHolder you at least have a link to click on and correct.

Hope this helps,

--- Derek

[Guest]

Hi Derek,

Great idea-good thinking!

Many thanks,

Karen

[lsk2002]

If you set the initial view of the pdf to single page continuous, the whole

page is shown when the bookmark or cross reference is clicked, instead of the image/table cross reference at the top of the page.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what your problem is though.

ls

[NL_Derek-56V59O]

I think you mean Single Page (not Continuous). In  that case indeed the whole page is displayed regardless of where the bookmark is.

However some users (including myself) find that scrolling with the mouse-wheel is unusable with the non-continuous display.

And in general, I'm opposed to forcing preferences on users.

--- Derek