Trying to differentiate between two variables

Adobe Community Professional ,
Jan 10, 2022 Jan 10, 2022

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Hi Everyone:

 

I had a question in an intro class today that I couldn't answer. 😬

 

What is the difference between Chapter Title Name and Filename (Short)? Both work on body pages and master pages. Both produce the filename with extension at the insertion point.

 

For example, if the file is saved as "formats.fm", both add formats.fm at the insertion point. What does Chapter Title Name do that Filename (Short) does not and bonus points if you remember when it showed up!

 

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TIA,
~Barb

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Adobe Community Professional , Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022
Barb, the only notion of $chaptertitlename can be found in this Help text, which exists already for FM-12 - and have myself not used it (yet):

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Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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Barb, the only notion of $chaptertitlename can be found in this Help text, which exists already for FM-12 - and have myself not used it (yet):

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Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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I knew you were going to be the one to respond to this, even as I posted the question, @K.Daube! 😊 

 

And thank you. But I've read the help entry repeatedly and I'm still completely unclear how to use it. I understand the words—and keystroked it—but I don't see what the practical application is. Do you?

 

I made a folder, dragged in a few files. Used properties to add a file to the folder that was not in my book. When I open all files in book, or save as pdf the associated file is included as if it were directly in the book list. Ok. I'm unclear why I would do that. But even after, when I add the variable, it still behaves exactly like the Filename (short) variable. 

 

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~Barb

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«I understand the words—and keystroked it—but I don't see what the practical application is»

That is the reason, why I just copied the help text. I would need to make experiments with folders containing chapters to get a glimpse what this is all about. We have a number of questions concerning folders in the forum. And yes, many new features were not described with a use case...

There is an Adobe video: https://www.daube.ch/docu/files/BookFolderTemplateUse.mp4, but I'm still lost. 

Two years ago I tried to understand thr subject: see https://www.daube.ch/docu/files/compendium.pdf page 289.

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Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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OK, @pulkitn, I'm going to try roping you in since you're the developer who most often pops into this forum. Just what does the <$chaptertitlename> system variable do, how, and why is it included? Someone apparently left that out of the documentation.

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Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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Lin—we were typing at the same time. Thanks for taking the intiative to pull in @pulkitn

 

~Barb

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Jan 11, 2022 Jan 11, 2022

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I'm curious now, too.

 

I can confirm that Adobe added the <$chaptertitlename> system variable for FrameMaker 9, as that's when it makes its first appearance in the User Manual. Unfortunately, there's no explanation of what it's used for. It's just ... there.

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Adobe Employee ,
Jan 12, 2022 Jan 12, 2022

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Hey Lin and Barb ,

Even I didn't realized while working on FrameMaker for years , Now I am curious too .
Let me see if I can get something more informative about it 

 

-Pulkit Nagpal

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@pulkitn: 😂

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OK! You are making me feel better, @K.Daube. I'll work through your links and will report back if I make a break-through. Perhaps you were the only one in the world who knew it existed, until my student asked about it? LOL 

 

As always, thank you!

 

~Barb

 

 

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