Word/MathType to FrameMaker/MathML Equation

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Nov 04, 2021 Nov 04, 2021

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Hello all,

 

I will be using unstructured FrameMaker 15.0.6.956 for the project below.

 

I am working on a document in Word that I will be moving to FrameMaker a little later in the process. (The original doc is in Word and there are multiple writers who are still working in the Word version using Master Docs.) The document is an engineering textbook that uses several hundred equations, for which MathType is used in the Word version. I will be moving it to FrameMaker for the ease of formatting, indexing, styles, cross-references, etc.

 

I have never used the MathML Equation feature in FrameMaker, but I see that it seems very similar to MathType--a kind of MathType for FrameMaker, maybe? Anyway, I am wondering if MathType will be importable into the FrameMaker doc. It doesn't seem to be copy/pastable, and I'm concerned that I may need to recreate every equation in the Frame version.

 

Thank you!

 

Nina

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Adobe Community Professional , Nov 07, 2021 Nov 07, 2021
re: …no way to do that other than as image files… And that can be done with preservation of typographic quality. If the Word doc is available as a PDF, Illustrator can open single pages, isolate individual equations, deleting everything else, shrink the artboard to equation extents, and then save it as SVG. The SVG preserves the text as text and any non-text elements as vector art. As you would need some way to organize them, and don't want to re-do all of them every time the .doc/x is revised...

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Nov 04, 2021 Nov 04, 2021

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This won't be very helpful, but the new MathML editor in FrameMaker is horrible. It's a disgrace that Adobe chose to put this in FrameMaker.

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Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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What is horrible about it? Just wondering how much pain I am in for when it's time to move/copy/re-create all of these equations from Word.

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Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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First of all, only a trial version is included with FrameMaker, so you have to pay extra for the full version. Second, the interface for creating/editing equations is not good at all. There are also limits on customizing equation component sizes, like superscripts and subscripts.

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Isn't this something like the third time in the last 6 months that someone has asked about importing equations created in Word into FrameMaker?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that we've found no way to do that other than as image files because Word does not save the equations out in an editable format. 

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re: …no way to do that other than as image files…

And that can be done with preservation of typographic quality. If the Word doc is available as a PDF, Illustrator can open single pages, isolate individual equations, deleting everything else, shrink the artboard to equation extents, and then save it as SVG. The SVG preserves the text as text and any non-text elements as vector art.

 

As you would need some way to organize them, and don't want to re-do all of them every time the .doc/x is revised, the equation instances ideally would have some separate and change-control stewardship already in place, that could be used in the saved file names and to ID those needing re-export.

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Nov 09, 2021 Nov 09, 2021

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Bob_Niland, I think this could work. It would take some time, but then I could import the image files by reference and just update the images as needed (though the equations themselves aren't likely to change). I am not particularly skilled at Illustrator, but what you describe sounds simple enough. Thanks!

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Nov 09, 2021 Nov 09, 2021

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LinSims, sorry for the repeat question. I did several searches and did not find this same question anywhere, hence my posting it myself. Image files from Word will work for me, if there is no other way to import. Thanks!

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No worries, they're easy enough to miss. Better to ask again then not get the information you need.

 

I'm mostly surprised that so many people (relatively speaking) suddenly have the same need! At least you're okay with images. The others needed (or at least wanted) to be able to maintain them in Frame.

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Nov 09, 2021 Nov 09, 2021

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Thanks, frameexpert. The added cost is not a problem, and it looks like the issues with creating/editing are the same as in MathType. I don't find either application all that user-friendly.

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