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Hello,
I'm using FM2015, and I have a large unstructured book with about 70 chapters. I updated the book and saw an error message I have never seen before: "Book is not self-consistent." I searched the obvious locations to try to figure this out but couldn't find any information. The book seems to be functioning fine.
Does anyone know what this message means?
Thanks!
Alexandra Duffy
Lead Technical Writer
Vectorworks, Inc.
Hello Everyone,
There was a new FM update this morning - 13.03.495. This solved the issue for me... no more "book is not self-consistent" error message when updating the book.
Thanks very much, Adobe Tech Comm team!
Alexandra
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As an update, I did finally find some info here on the forum from 2009. But, none of our x-refs are broken, the book wasn't changing as I updated it, and I am not using structured. So I'm still puzzled by this message. There are no other errors for the book.
Alexandra
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You saw - https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg27143.html & https://forums.adobe.com/thread/460243 ?
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Yes, I did see these posts. In my case, I'm not using Track Changes, and not creating an Index. I am creating a TOC; however, it generates properly and there's no crash. I will try removing the TOC and creating a new TOC file. I can't do this until later today. Will post my results.
Thanks,
Alexandra
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Removing and re-adding the TOC made no difference. Still see the error. My colleague, who did not update FM this morning to the third FM2015 update, does not get the error. So the update could be related to the book error. I can still function fine - I had just never seen this error before.
Thanks for the help, Jeff!
Alexandra
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There have only been two (2) updates to FM2015. What's your point version (Help > About)?
Do you have any other generated files in your book? If so, exclude them all and try to re-generate. If this works, then turn off the excludes one at a time to see where the problem starts.
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Hi Arnis,
There was a third update just this morning. 13.0.3.494
Nope, I have no other generated files in the book. I'm sure it is related to the TOC, but not sure what the issue is or whether the update had an effect. And, I'm out of the office for the rest of the week, so I'll have to get back to this next week.
All I know is that yesterday there were no issues, and today there are. I updated my FM, and my colleague did not. But of course, we also did other work in chapters which may have caused this? It's strange. Since the TOC compiles file and everything else is otherwise OK, I'm not too worried.
Thank you!
Alexandra
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OK, I see that they haven't updated the downloads page to show the new patch and my Help > Updates... is greyed out [Hmmm..... ]. The resolved issues info [https://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/resolved-issues-framemaker-2015.html] shows some work on the Book UI and Conditoinal pod features,,, so it's possible something got broken. I'll flag the engineers on this.
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Hi Zandwich,
Does this issue happens with other books too? Also would it be possible for you to share a trimmed book or any sample book that throws given error.
It would really help us getting to the root cause. You can directly mail me sample files at: ksaini@adobe.com
Thanks
Kunal Saini
FM Engineering
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Hi,
I have TCS 5, RH 2015 and FM 2015.
A week or two ago, I ensured that my FM 2015 is up-to-date (v. 13.0.02.433)
I updated my FM book, on April 12, no issues, On April 13, I noticed there is a new update, installed and I got the "Book is not self- consistent message with the books I tried to update. In the past I have gotten this message in TCS 4, when I tried to update a book with Track Text Edit on
My current book has no Track Edits on, and no Revision Marks . I spent two hours trying to figure out where is the problem (TOC, Index, numbering, or X-refs), by selecting and deselecting options in the Update dg box and by adding and removing files from my books, and this is what I found:
So, my conclusion is that there is a problem with the latest FM 2015 update.
I am before product release and time is of the essence. I searched the forums, and it seems a rollback to a previous FM update is not an option. So, before uninstalling and reinstalling FM from the original setup files, I decided to do a System Restore to a version of my laptop from April 4, and that seems to work so far.
I have an older version of FM 2015 now (from before April 13 update) and my book now updates no problem. My book is linked to RH project and am hoping I can build the online help (have not tried this yet.
So, if you want to reproduce the issue:
I hope this gets fixed, as at some point I will have to update FM. All of my product documentation is upgraded from earlier versions of FM, and it is humanly impossible to recreate all X-refs in FM 2015 so that I can update my documents.
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Are you able to send Kunal a sample of what you're experiencing?
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Yes, I just sent him two of the books (FM 2015 and FM2012) and three more versions of the FM 2015 book created when trying to figure out the issue.
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Hi,
I also upgraded to the latest version and, after reading this post, did a quick update of a few or my current books. All of them generated correctly and I did see the error. I have recently uploaded a book for another bug (4103349). It generates this error.
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Hi Kunal,
If you still need a sample book I will send that to you when I am back in the office on Monday.
Alexandra
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Hi All,
I am able to get books from Navena and Tom and we are working on this issue on priority. We are able to see the error message too.
If anyone has encountered a crasher or has a crash log, please do share with me.
Thanks
Kunal
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Hello Everyone,
There was a new FM update this morning - 13.03.495. This solved the issue for me... no more "book is not self-consistent" error message when updating the book.
Thanks very much, Adobe Tech Comm team!
Alexandra
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The same thing happens to me, updating generates this error. I wish I could send in my work for a data point, but I'm bound by NDA.
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Has Adobe confirmed that this is a bug? I also updated FrameMaker 2015 to version 13.0.3.494 a few days ago and now I'm getting this "book is not self-consistent" error.
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I had the same error. I discovered that I still had track changes on. Turn it off and try to update your book.
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Using FM17 and had this happen for the first time today. Disabling Track Edits allowed me to update the book without issue. I have over 150 different FM files and this is the only one it's happened with (so far). Thanks for posting a suggested resolution!