colored row separators

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Feb 04, 2013 Feb 04, 2013

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I need to build a template with row separators that are blue. I can do this in the table Custom Ruling and Shading dialog for each individual table, but can't figure out how to get this property into the template for all tables. Is it even possible?

FM10 [TCS3]

Win 7

Thanks for any help!

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Most Valuable Participant , Feb 04, 2013 Feb 04, 2013
You need to create a ruling style that uses the blue colour first, then you can set that as the default ruling style in your Table Designer.Using the Table > Formats... > Custom Ruling & Shading option, click on the Edit Ruling Style button to create a new style.In the above example, I created a MyBlueSeparator ruling style. Now, in the Table Designer, I can then use this new style to create blue row separators:

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Feb 04, 2013 Feb 04, 2013

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You need to create a ruling style that uses the blue colour first, then you can set that as the default ruling style in your Table Designer.

Using the Table > Formats... > Custom Ruling & Shading option, click on the Edit Ruling Style button to create a new style.

Tbl_ruling_style.png

In the above example, I created a MyBlueSeparator ruling style. Now, in the Table Designer, I can then use this new style to create blue row separators:

Tbl_ruling_blue.png

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Feb 06, 2013 Feb 06, 2013

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Thank you! I didn't realize that I needed to save my custom settings with a style name.

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Feb 17, 2021 Feb 17, 2021

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Sorry for bumping this solved and old post to the top. The answer is probably going to be "No" but as a newbie, I still want to ask it to be sure. Is there a separate "Ruling Style Designer" or "Ruling Style Catalog" which can be easily accessed via the menus, toolbars or panels?

 

I've managed to create new ruling styles with different line widths and color definitions via the "Edit Ruling Style" window but the question during the recording phase (The "Set" button which already says "No Undo" beneath it) makes me cringe every time I see it. Does that mean that the newly created ruling styles are not going to be copied onto a new document which I'm going to create based on this document? Why are the "Ruling Styles" being treated differently than other style types?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 17, 2021 Feb 17, 2021

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Yep! for my money, that "No Undo" is a bit of a nothingburger, about as helpful to me as the "Clearing History" warnings.

Neither seem to impact my decision making, and only serve to raise my heartbeat for a moment.

You can always submit a feature request to modify the UI at adobe.com/go/wish. With any luck, they'd just push it out with a patch release.

-Matt

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 17, 2021 Feb 17, 2021

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The only place to edit rules is in Custom Ruling and Shading. After editing the list and clicking Set, you are done. The No Undo simply means that Fm will remove the undo history after you set it, so you can't use undo if you immediately want to backtrack. However, you can alway go back and and re-edit the rule.

 

This is a limitation of FrameMaker's undo feature, I just teach my students to be aware of it and not to worry about it. For years, we only had one undo so it has never bothered me personally. I learned how to fix things by going back and changing them.

 

~Barb

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You're right, there is no separate Ruling Styles Designer/Catalog, probably because these are specific to tables and aren't used elsewhere. 

 

Ruling and shading in tables is one of the few things that Word does better than FrameMaker. For example, Word provides 24 different choices for line styles, including varying patterns of dashed lines and anywhere from 1 to 3 lines of multiple widths. FrameMaker has 5 line styles, and while you can add others, they're all going to be solid lines and can be either 1 line or 2 lines of the same width.

 

Granted, this isn't a big issue and I rarely miss the variety that Word offers, but sometimes it would be nice to have the options.

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