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Framemaker 2020 - Conditional Tags provided that cannot be deleted

Community Beginner ,
Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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I loaded Framemaker 2020 and everything is going smoothly except the following two conditional tags are provided by default:

  • FM_PDF_Comments_Highlight
  • FM_PDF_Comments_Underline

Since I use conditional tags all the time for my work, the last thing I want is two more tags. However, no matter how hard I try, I cannot get rid of these two. I delete them, they seem to be gone, save the file, but when I open the file again they are there again. Does anyone know how to permanently get rid of them. I have lots of manuals and I do not want them in every file in every manual.   thank you

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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These are used internally by FrameMaker so they likely cannot be deleted. They should be hidden though, and I would consider it a bug if you can see them.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Hi,

 

These conditions are used for the Track Text Edits feature.

I also do not like these conditions. And I also do not know, how they could be hidden.

 

Best regards

 

Winfried

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Never heard of any default conditional tags being included. If you create a brand new .fm doc based on one of the default FM templates, are they there too?

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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I have my own set of templates, however I just created a document from Framemakers doc template and those two tags mentioned in my original message are there along with the Comment tag. The Comment tag was also added to my files, but that one could be deleted.

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Ah, I never use the Track Changes thing, so I've not run into them before. 

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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So does Adobe read these items and then fix this bug?

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Jan 31, 2021 Jan 31, 2021

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Some Adobe engineers follow this forum and also post something here. However, you cannot rely on this. Therefore it's very good, when you created a bug report.

When others vote for this bug, Adobe might fix this faster.

https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-9622

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Nope - go to the Tracker & log a request/bug - Tracker (https://tracker.adobe.com/)

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Feb 01, 2021 Feb 01, 2021

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I know I have ruthlessly deleted these definitions when I've had to use .mif to tidy up other things … but can't remember whether FM then tidily reinstates them. Can't check at the moment, because recent firewall changes have blocked our access to Adobe licence servers for long enough that I now have to reinstall FM completely. <sigh>

 

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Feb 01, 2021 Feb 01, 2021

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I just checked this. When I deleted the FM_PDF_Comments_Highlight condition in the MIF file with Notepad++ and opened the MIF file with FrameMaker, the condition was still there.

However, there are also conditions like these:

FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED

And these are not shown in the list of conditions. Therefore it should be possible to hide these conditions.

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Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021

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They've always been there but not visible until FM2020. I complained about it on the Beta forum but it did not good.

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Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021

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I did go ahead and put in a bug in Adobe's tracker for this. Hopefully it will get fixed

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Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021

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Give us a link so we can vote for it.

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Feb 02, 2021 Feb 02, 2021

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Oct 19, 2021 Oct 19, 2021

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OMG, I thought it was just me going crazy. Voted.

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