Help get Fm UI and UX corrected (my Fm UI wish list)

Adobe Community Professional ,
May 07, 2020

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While teaching a FrameMaker class last week, I noted things about the Fm interface that have always sort of annoyed me. (I seem to do this about every year and a half...)

I turned them into a post, complete with images and links to the corresponding Adobe Tracker posts I made. Check out the items I noted in both standard and structured Fm. If you agree with me please take the time to click on the link(s) and vote for the issues.

It's always important to "vote up" things that can make a difference, and it feels like the engineering team is open to some quick fixes right now.

SPOILER ALERT: I’m planning on an update to my Working with Content Fm reference book soon, and would love to get these UI elements tightened up in time for that next version.

See for the post, complete with images.

Here are the individual issues I submitted:

Unstructured UI Suggestions

Relabel Page Layouts to Master Pages

When using File > Import > Formats, the option to import Master Pages is (and has long been) labeled Page Layouts. Please change to Master Pages.


Move Import by Reference to top of Import dialog

The more recent option to Insert > Image has removed the option to copy into document, but the older File > Import > File method still exists. Since it’s still there, as with previous versions, the option to Import By Reference or Copy Into Document is placed (illogically) at the bottom of the dialog. Please move to the top of the dialog to promote a user choice that facilitates proper functionality.


Relabel ‘By Pasting’ to By Pasting Clipboard Content

In the Find/Change dialog, the Change: By Pasting option performs the function of pasting the current content of the clipboard.

Please improve this label to By Pasting Clipboard Content (or similar) to promote the discoverability of this popular and useful feature.


Relabel Extra Spaces to Exactly Two Spaces

In the Spelling Checker (ugh, see next entry…) there is an option labeled Extra Spaces. However, this feature only flags exactly two spaces as a spelling mistake. Either relabel the feature to Exactly 2 spaces (easy) or configure it to actually flag two or more consecutive spaces as a spelling mistake.


Even better, relabel the existing feature to Exactly 2 spaces, and provide an additional option to flag 3 or more spaces so they can be replaced with a tab. Perhaps we could label it 3 or more consecutive spaces.

Relabel ‘Spelling Checker’ to ‘Check Spelling’

Spelling Checker doesn’t match with all other spellcheck options in the Adobe product line. Please align with the other products.


Refer to Pods as Panels

The eternal battle for UI label supremacy…perhaps this is already decided, but Pods sounds old. Palettes sounds dated and ambiguous. See this for “official” stance:

Can we just call them Panels and be done with it? If I’m not mistaken, this also aligns with Adobe flagship UI conventions.


Structured UI suggestions

Match Document View tags and Structure View tags

Make sure the View > Element Boundaries as Tags icons to expand/collapse structure match with the graphics in the Structure View.


Document View uses triangles


Structure View uses triangles

Label ‘Elements’ panel to match menu item

The View > Pods > Element Catalog option brings up the Elements panel. Please align the labels.

Change Element Catalog icons to text

Speaking of the Element Catalog, with all the extra room atop the panel, please replace the unintuitive icons with text labels, as we did in the Paragraph and Character Designers


Display Element Boundaries in color

Please match the color of the boundary brackets to the color of the Boundaries as Tags items.


Element Boundaries (as tags) display in blue, promoting differentiation


Element Boundaries display in black (not good)

Use consistent space in displaying Structure View snippet

The snippet is currently spaced from the edge of the related element bubble. Please align snippets to the same position so they don’t jump around as you expand/collapse parts of the structure view.


Change ‘Allow Automatic Insertion of Children’ to ‘Automatically Insert Child Element’

No matter how long I’ve seen it, it always sounds vaguely creepy and stalkerish. Please change this label to ‘Automatically Insert Child Element’ or similar.


Relabel ‘NoName’ as ‘Undefined’

When working with elements that are undeclared in the EDD, content is displayed as ‘NoName’. Please change this to ‘Undefined’ or ‘Unknown’.







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Advisor ,
May 10, 2020

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Well done, Matt! thanks for taking the time to round up these inconsistencies. (one notices, btw, that the Tracker uses fonts I've not seen in any other Adobe interface on my PC …)

I had a thought about the last but one, and don't know whether I managed to add it to my vote:  reading the suggestion without knowing the functionality, the two labels are saying different thing. "As is" describes an option to allow adding one of more child elements, the suggestion refers to a single 'insert element' action.





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