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How to identify master page override

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Aug 18, 2016

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I think the search for this forum must be broken. Surely there have been questions over the years that use the term "override."

Anyway, every time I switch from a certain master page to the body, I get the message asking if I want to maintain the override. I have looked and looked and cannot figure out what on the body page is overriding the master page.

How can I find out what Framemaker is choking on? I'm using FM 12 in Windows 7.

Thanks!

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Hi Nancy:

I know! We have to put on our detective hats and grab our magnifying glasses to figure it out. You can put this on a wishlist here: Home.

In my experience, once removed, always removed. Are you (or someone in your office) doing anything to add it back in without knowing it? For example, selecting the template frame on one page and making it slightly longer to accommodate an extra line? If the template frame is just a fraction of a point different from the master page frame, it will generate the message.

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How to identify master page override

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I think the search for this forum must be broken. Surely there have been questions over the years that use the term "override."

Anyway, every time I switch from a certain master page to the body, I get the message asking if I want to maintain the override. I have looked and looked and cannot figure out what on the body page is overriding the master page.

How can I find out what Framemaker is choking on? I'm using FM 12 in Windows 7.

Thanks!

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Correct answer by Barb Binder | Adobe Community Professional

Hi Nancy:

I know! We have to put on our detective hats and grab our magnifying glasses to figure it out. You can put this on a wishlist here: Home.

In my experience, once removed, always removed. Are you (or someone in your office) doing anything to add it back in without knowing it? For example, selecting the template frame on one page and making it slightly longer to accommodate an extra line? If the template frame is just a fraction of a point different from the master page frame, it will generate the message.

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Aug 19, 2016

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That means one of the body pages has a override: different margins or column settings from the master in charge of it. If you want consistency across the document, choose remove overrides. There isn't anyplace that I know of to see exactly what the override is: FrameMaker doesn't offer that in any scenario.

My rule is no overrides, so it's a no-brainer: if I get the message in any scenario, I made a mistake and I remove it. In your case, save the file first, go to the master, and back to the body pages and remove the override. Then examine each page to see if anything untoward shows up. If it does, File > Revert. If not, File > Save.

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Hi, Barb.

Thanks for that explanation.

I always select "Remove overrides" when I go back to the body pages, but the removal isn't permanent. The next time I go to the master page and return to the body page, I get the same warning. In your experience, is the removal permanent? If so, I must be missing something ...

(It irks me that after ~25 years, FrameMaker still doesn't identify the overrides! It offers all kinds of other generated lists, how about one for overrides!)

Thanks again!

--Nancy

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Hi Nancy:

I know! We have to put on our detective hats and grab our magnifying glasses to figure it out. You can put this on a wishlist here: Home.

In my experience, once removed, always removed. Are you (or someone in your office) doing anything to add it back in without knowing it? For example, selecting the template frame on one page and making it slightly longer to accommodate an extra line? If the template frame is just a fraction of a point different from the master page frame, it will generate the message.

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Hi, Barb.

I will have to do some sleuthing!

Thank you for the link. (I wonder if it will have a placebo effect: produces no actual result, but makes me feel better....)

I'm interested in your training and will take a look at what you offer.

--Nancy

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Awesome! I'd love to see you in class.

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