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Lots of red rectangles maybe in place of graphics?

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I've inherited a set of 86 8.0p277 MIF files (303 pages total) that come with a lot of TIFF files. I imported them as fm files in FM10 with no problems.  When I look at them, they don't display any images. Instead, I get dozens of red dashed boxes, which are in the master pages, but can't be selected. I think these are background images.

The original editing language was German, and I didn't get the book file.

- I've made all conditional text unconditional, didn't help.

- Saved as html, no rectangles, but no graphics.

- Saved as rtf, same.

- Saved as FM10 MIF, rectangles, .tif references are present.

- Looked at FM8 MIF files, .tif references present.

But there's no request for the files' location when I open the original FM8 MIF. The references are present in the new FM10 MIF, but no prompts or display there either.

A TIFF reference from the FM10 MIF looks like:

  <ImportObject

   <Unique 1037782>

   <Pen 15>

   <Fill 7>

   <PenWidth  1.0 pt>

   <Separation 0>

   <ObColor `Black'>

   <RunaroundType Contour>

   <ImportObFileDI `<u\><c\>pictures<c\>fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportObFile `../pictures/fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportHint `0001FRAMTIFFMACP0001'>

   <ImportObUpdater `TIFF'>

   <ShapeRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <BRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <ImportObFixedSize Yes>

   <BitMapDpi 0>

   <FlipLR No>

  > # end of ImportObject

What am I missing?

Thank you!!!!

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Lots of red rectangles maybe in place of graphics?

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I've inherited a set of 86 8.0p277 MIF files (303 pages total) that come with a lot of TIFF files. I imported them as fm files in FM10 with no problems.  When I look at them, they don't display any images. Instead, I get dozens of red dashed boxes, which are in the master pages, but can't be selected. I think these are background images.

The original editing language was German, and I didn't get the book file.

- I've made all conditional text unconditional, didn't help.

- Saved as html, no rectangles, but no graphics.

- Saved as rtf, same.

- Saved as FM10 MIF, rectangles, .tif references are present.

- Looked at FM8 MIF files, .tif references present.

But there's no request for the files' location when I open the original FM8 MIF. The references are present in the new FM10 MIF, but no prompts or display there either.

A TIFF reference from the FM10 MIF looks like:

  <ImportObject

   <Unique 1037782>

   <Pen 15>

   <Fill 7>

   <PenWidth  1.0 pt>

   <Separation 0>

   <ObColor `Black'>

   <RunaroundType Contour>

   <ImportObFileDI `<u\><c\>pictures<c\>fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportObFile `../pictures/fri060146000.tif'>

   <ImportHint `0001FRAMTIFFMACP0001'>

   <ImportObUpdater `TIFF'>

   <ShapeRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <BRect  -23.92676 mm -7.0 mm 103.85356 mm 69.26943 mm>

   <ImportObFixedSize Yes>

   <BitMapDpi 0>

   <FlipLR No>

  > # end of ImportObject

What am I missing?

Thank you!!!!

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fwiw … I created a new .fm file with just one graphic frame, set the frame fill to red and imported a graphic by reference – I was curious to read that you ended up with red frames when there was no mention of red in your code extract, and I don't usually go anywhere near referenced graphics when I'm looking at .mif

Here's what FM offered me:

<Frame

<ID 1>

<Unique 999519>

<Pen 1>

<Fill 7>

<PenWidth  1.0 pt>

<Separation 2>

<ObColor `Red'>

<DashedPattern

   <DashedStyle Solid>

> # end of DashedPattern

<RunaroundGap  6.0 pt>

<RunaroundType None>

<Angle  360.0>

<ShapeRect  1.5" 2.34722" 4.53443" 2.91444">

<BRect  1.5" 2.34722" 4.53443" 2.91444">

<FrameType Inline>

<NSOffset  0.0">

<BLOffset  0.0">

<AnchorAlign Center>

<Cropped No>

<ImportObject 

<Unique 999529> 

<Fill 7>

<Separation 0>

<ObColor `Black'>

<ImportObFileDI `<c\>das.png'>

<ImportObFile `das.png'>

<ImportHint `0001IMAGPNG WIN3    '>

   <ImportObUpdater `PNG'>

  <ShapeRect  0.69694" 0.45141" 3.8236" 2.44914">

  <BRect  0.69694" 0.45141" 3.8236" 2.44914">

   <ImportObFixedSize Yes>

   <BitMapDpi 0>

   <FlipLR No>

   <ImportObNameDI `1349679480'>

   <ObjectActivateInPDF No>

   <ObjectOpenInFloatWindow No>

   <ObjectSupportMMLink No>

> # end of ImportObject

> # end of Frame

Have the references in some magical fashion disappeared from the source files you're working with? if I remove the <ImportObject> lines from the .mif example above, then I end up with just the empty graphics frame outlined with a dashed, red line – as you describe. The absence of references to graphics could also explain why FM is not asking you to update the path.

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Jan 26, 2016

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Some suggestions:

  • Confirm that your FM10 application can display the TIFF files:
    • Identify a TIFF file that is referenced in the FM8 MIF, but that is not displaying when you open the MIF.
    • Create a new document using FM10.
    • Import the TIFF file.
    • Confirm it displays correctly.

FrameMaker cannot display all variants of the TIFF format. For example, it doesn't do transparency or CMYK. If the TIFF doesn't display, use a graphics editor to convert it to a supported format, such as an RGB PNG file.

  • After opening the FM8 MIF, confirm that the View menu has an entry to Hide Graphics.

If the View menu instead says Show Graphics, there is a statement in the FM8 MIF that is disabling graphics display. Choose View > Show Graphics to reverse this.

  • Post the original FM8 MIF here. Preferably an <ImportObject ... > # end of ImportObject, and the object that wraps it (e.g. a <Frame>).

You're posting the FM10 MIF, resulting from opening the FM8 MIF and re-saving it as MIF. Whatever is causing the problem might be stripped out by this process.

  • Compare the FM8 and FM10 MIF files for a single graphic. Any major differences might give a hint of the problem.

Expect some minor differences, such as changes in the <Unique> identifiers.

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