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Banding issues w gradients – Dither feature in latest AI ?

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Feb 03, 2025 Feb 03, 2025

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Dealing with banding issues, normally solved in Ps using dither.

 

But my file is AI, and the Texture > Grain ain't cutting it.

Anyone achieved a dither effect in Illustrator to obliterate banding. And how? Thx.

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Feb 03, 2025 Feb 03, 2025

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Dither is essentially a pixel-based thing. A true vector-based gradient won't use a cheat like that. Or at least it shouldn't.

 

Are you seeing the banding problems on screen or in print output? What is the color depth of the gradient fill? A gradient fill that uses only one color channel, such as a grayscale gradient using only black ink, will have only so many possible color steps between gradient stops. A grayscale gradient using all four CMYK inks will have a smoother tonal range that is less prone to banding.

 

In print output the features within the printer (or RIP application) will matter a great deal. A printer that has an Adobe certified PDF print engine will print vector-based gradients from Illustrator-generated artwork more smoothly and accurately.

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'Are you seeing the banding problems on screen or in print output?'

Great question. Not in print only monitor. Monitor is playing tricks on me?

Here's a screenshot. Just between two shades of CMYK grays. 

That said should I just sanity check with my printer's prepress dept and ensure that their RIP application will smooth out gradients?

Or what specifically should I ask with my printer?

And thank you for your prompt response! Much appreciated at my 11th hour of prepping this file. 🙂 

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The screen shot looks like the banding is coming from either the monitor or the graphics board. Is the image from a GPU Preview setting or CPU Preview? Computer displays and graphics boards are going to be only so good at displaying grayscale gradients without visible banding.

 

For print output, it definitely helps a great deal if the RIP application has an Adobe certified PDF print engine. It's also important for the application to be fairly current if it will be printing advanced Adobe-centric effects, such as the free form gradient shown in the screen shot image

 

If the RIP application can't handle Adobe PDF content natively it's likely some problems will be visible in print output. Gradients may have visible banding. Some objects may display yucky discolored box syndrome -faint boxes around objects that have clipping masks or other transparency effects. I see this all the time in drawings printed out of our office color laser printer. The same artwork prints perfectly out of our large format RIP applications.

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Great info Bobby, thank you!

I did check for both the CPU and GPU views, and I can see banding in both.

 

For my sanity sake, I went ahead and imported those AI background mesh gradients into Ps, and did a 16bit uniform noise @ 1% (monochromatic unchecked). That got rid of any evidence of banding. Imported those back into AI as 16bit cmyk TIFs. My AI file ballooned by 100 megs, but whatev.

Extreme, but I gotta be sure. At the same time I'll ask my printer about their RIP application.



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