Can't find any four digit Pantone colors that start with 76..

[Guest]

I am using Illustrator CS4.

I am trying to find Patone 7621 C

I have looked in all my swatch books in Illustrator and can't find any color beginning with 76..(no 7619, 7620, 7621, etc.) It stops at 75...

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Dbo

[PrepressPro1]

Who told you you would find these colors in the pantone lib?

[Guest]

I have the Pantone Color Bridge both Uncoated and Coated...the Plus Series...I assumed these colors would be in the Illustrator swatch books...I can find most of them...

[snunicycler]

here is a catalog with the colors you are looking for and it shows the cmyk values. it's not really ideal but it might get you close.

http://issuu.com/gestiondecolor/docs/pantone-color-bridge-plus-coated

the color you are looking for is 0,98,91,30

[Guest]

I am going to be sending this job to a printer. Do I just turn the CMYK value into a Spot color then? I will have a

couple other Pantone Colors. I still don't understand why it isn't in illustrator...

[Guest]

The 7000 series is relativley new. Outside of your 'typical' Pantone book, I first thought that *other* 7000s were in the Pastel library (as opposed to Coated, Uncoated, Matte, or Metallic libraries, etc.). However, there's a whole busload of Pantone books that the Average Joe doesn't own. Probably just go to Pantone.com if you haven't already (or Xrite.com). They're adding new colors all the time...hope this helps a little!

🙂

[_scott__]

theonlyscreennamenottaken wrote:

I am going to be sending this job to a printer. Do I just turn the CMYK value into a Spot color then? I will have a

couple other Pantone Colors. I still don't understand why it isn't in illustrator...

Pantone, like any company, wants to make money. How they do this is by creating new color mixes that look almost exactly like previous color mixes but the breakouts are slightly different. When Pantone releases these new colors, the digital color books provided to software developers may not be upgraded or the upgrades are provided too late in a development cycle to include them. Sometimes you can download updated color libraries from Pantone's web site. Sometimes you can't. it's my understanding Adobe does it's level best to include the most recent color books with it's applications. However, you can not expect Illustrator 14 (CS4) to include the most recent "marketing-dollar" colors from Pantone since AI14 is more than 2 years old now.

There are a couple of very easy ways to handle your files.

1. If possible, pick a different Pantone color that matches the color you want. Chances are, if you look, you'll find a practically identical color somewhere else in the color book.
2. Use ANY Pantone color for the file, but specify the exact Pantone number you want the printer to use. For example, tell the printer "The Pantone 186 plate should print Pantone 7621." You can also simply set those object as strictly Magenta, for example, and tell the printer "Magenta prints Pantone 7621."

[Guest]

Thanks for the help everyone. I really appreciate it

[JETalmage]

Do I just turn the CMYK value into a Spot color then?

If you want it to separate as a spot color, yes. Make your spot color look any way you want onscreen. Name the swatch the name of the actual Pantone color you want to specify, make it Global and Spot Color.

A spot color is simply sent to its own separation plate . When seps are printed, assuming the printer marks are turned on, the seps are labeled according to the spot color(s) name(s).

There is no "magic" between a Pantone (or any other library's) spot color's name and its published process approximations. In fact, I quite often select Pantone swatches from one of the libraries, and then edit their process values because I don't find the recommended values a convincing match onscreen. I do this particularly with Pantone metallics.

JET

[snunicycler]

um, ya i dont know... i dont really print anything. i use that site for referance and stuff but i dont know what the requirements are as far as spot colors go with the printer. i'd call your printer and ask them, they will know, (then tell me) haha

[Wade_Zimmerman1]

The answer was discovered by someone asking anther question concerning another pantone question the colors you wan are in the newest color libraries from Pantone known as Pantone Plus Digital Libraries for Adobe and you can get a free down load from the Pantone site by following this link

http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721

once installed you will also have up to date formulas which are according to Pantone a consolidation of the euro and north american standards.

there are a couple of new categories as well I recommend everyone install the and unfortunately you need new swatch books which I no longer buy.

[schroef]

I got sort of the same issue, though when i check the Pantone site it does exist. It seems illustrator hasnt either updated their Color Books from PMS or i did something wrong.

I need PMS 3515c (dark purple), this is the page on PMS site which contains the correct number.

Anyone got an idea why this does not show in Illustrator?

I also tried other books, nothing    

[creative_curiosity1549]

Download the Pantone Color Manager to update your Pantone libraries.

[schroef]

Shouldnt Adobe provide a proper lib though?    

[creative_curiosity1549]

Why?

The Pantone Color Manager is free when you have a printed swatches book (and using the swatches without a printed book makes no sense at all), so just download it and install the libraries.

[schroef]

Because if Adobe provides a service, its awkward this is not up to date.

I dont own any Pantone products, i can try Pantone Color Manager as trial. I believe im than able to update the libs within the trial period.

[Bobby Henderson]

Illustrator CC 2019 has a (somewhat) updated Pantone+ spot color library. PMS 7621 (from the original post) is in there. 3515 isn't.

Pantone has updated its swatches with new spot colors a couple or so times in the past few years. My shop had to order a few new swatch books due to a sign project for Subway. The green and yellow spot colors in the updated brand were not in any of our color books. My previous swatch book set had an extra "+336" book of extra colors; Subway's new colors weren't even in that little swatch book. The updated swatch book sets were around $150 each. Ouch.

[ScooterD76]

Im running 2018 and Pantone+ is there as well

[Test Screen Name]

I believe Pantone’s aim is to get you to buy their products. Ink or swatches, according to your job. That’s probably why they no longer license their updated books to Adobe.

[schroef]

NOw they also need to work out there faults i noticed in their books when you export them for illustrator and photoshop. Some PMS show wrong numbers or different LAB numbers in both apps    

[Bobby Henderson]

Their color books and software cost too much to update every year on a 12 month basis. Yes, you're supposed to be able to get their color matching swatch software with the swatch books when you buy them. But the last couple of books my shop has bought had no way to get that software. No links, no serial numbers, no nothing that came with those swatch books to get the software end of it. I'm not paying $99 extra for some software that I should otherwise be getting for free.

I keep my swatch books locked up in desk drawers out of the light. I have a few outdated Pantone swatch books to compare with the brand new ones boasting the latest colors. There's hardly any difference. The key is taking good care of the swatch books. And not letting them "grow legs." It's really crazy how many customers just casually want to walk off with those things to research colors and never return them. They think those things are cheap throw-away items like a tri-fold vacation brochure. Those swatch books are expensive. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of graphics people specifying Pantone spot colors on jobs without having one of those costly physical swatch books on hand.

[creative_curiosity1549]

I'm using the Pantone Color Manager software with the serial of the swatches book I bought 6 years ago. And I can still get updated libraries with it.

[Bobby Henderson]

Where is the serial number in the swatch book package? I've looked inside and outside of the box and through both the coated and uncoated swatch books. The closest thing that looks like a serial number in any of it is the SKU bar code on the left lower end of the box. There's nothing else and no mention at all of the companion Pantone Color Matching software. I've looked through two other previous swatch book packages and it's the same situation.

[creative_curiosity1549]

In my Solid Coated/Uncoated Pait of swatches books (the Formula Guide as they call it) the serial number is on page 2 or 3 or the like (somewhere on the first pages). Each of the two Guidebooks has a serial #

[schroef]

BobbyH5280​,

I'm willing to bet there's a lot of graphics people specifying Pantone spot colors on jobs without having one of those costly physical swatch books on hand.

I confess, im guilty sir....

I dont have have the money to get those. I use them as a guide and then work in CMYK.