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double cut line in eps file for roland versaworks

Explorer ,
Dec 18, 2017 Dec 18, 2017

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Hey,
I use illustrator cc to create cutting lines to be processed with roland versaworks. line thickness 0.25 and I safe this as an eps file adobe postscript language level 3.

When I open this file with versaworks I sometimes have a dubble cutting lines, close to each other.

This is not always the case
How is this or what am I doing wrong?

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Community Expert , Dec 19, 2017 Dec 19, 2017

Hide the cutline.

Select All.

Choose Object Flatten Transparency.

Show the cutline and save as EPS

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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You need to click on the triangle and open the layer contents.

Bildschirmfoto 2018-07-20 um 18.56.49.png

Please do also read the documentation:

How to use layers in Illustrator

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New Here ,
Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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Im sorry I thought we were talking about the new link that i sent you

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rC50l_Y-nxwiTJ9WK8RNOY7-w6bw7F2v

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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Im sorry I thought we were talking about the new link that i sent you

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rC50l_Y-nxwiTJ9WK8RNOY7-w6bw7F2v

I don't see duplicate paths in that one.

Are there errors in Versaworks? Those would be caused by Versaworks.

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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No because we have flexi  as well for another program and when we look at in on there we can tell there is a double cut on there as well.

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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There is the cutline as well as other vector graphics in that file and maybe that throws off your plotting software.

You need to read about how you can instruct the software to print the lower layer and cut the other one.

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New Here ,
Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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What Cutline are you talking about because on my file where all the pink is, That is where it is suppose to be  and that is where it is suppose to cut.

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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Please contact Versaworks. Maybe someone can come to your place and give you an introductory course on how to handle that machine.

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New Here ,
Apr 26, 2019 Apr 26, 2019

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread. I'm having trouble with the following file double cutting in SignBlazer... What am i doing wrong?

This is the file:

Microsoft OneDrive - Access files anywhere. Create docs with free Office Online.

It's an illustrator .eps saved in v8

Steve

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Apr 27, 2019 Apr 27, 2019

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chrism85856091  schrieb

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. I'm having trouble with the following file double cutting in SignBlazer... What am i doing wrong?

Please ask the company that makes SignBlazer what's wrong with your file.

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May 18, 2021 May 18, 2021

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Flexi accepts AI files. It puts a double stroke on text. You've got to get rid of that if you use Flexi.
I think many of the double stroke cut line errors  I make come from seleting the cut lines then scrolling while accidently holding option.

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Jul 20, 2018 Jul 20, 2018

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When you doing a contour cut are you suppose to have dulicates or no? and where is the applied transparency and all that located?

No, you're not supposed to have a duplicate.

Please read the specifications for your file (either in the manual if this is your plotter or contact the service you will be using). The specifications about how exactly the contour needs to be set up, is different for different plotters or services.

But you will never need duplicate elements.

Transparency can be set either in the appearance panel or the transparency panel.

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New Here ,
May 03, 2020 May 03, 2020

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Your're a true life saver! I've been looking for the answer to this for soo long T_T

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2023 Apr 17, 2023

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I have found that if the stroke is aligned to the outside - and not center that it may also cause a double cut line.

 

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Aug 21, 2023 Aug 21, 2023

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So I know this is an old post but I do have another fix for the double cut line problem of the CutContour path in eps files saved from illustrator.  As Ton Fredericks mentioned, this problem is due to transparency flattening with the CutContour visible during the flattening process. By default, strokes are converted to outlines which is why Ton recommends hiding it before flattening. Then unhiding it before saving it so it doesn't get converted.

But if you have a file with transparencies as well as a cut line and just want to save the file, you can with an adjustment to the transparency setting in the save as process ... which is what I do.

There's a transparency flattening setting that converts strokes to outlines when the file is flattened during the save process.  When you select save as and choose eps ... the next screen is where you can choose the transparency setting that needs to be altered.  The preset is usually set to medium or high resolution.  Click the "Custom Button" and deselect (uncheck) the box that says "Convert All Strokes to Outlines".  Click Okay and okay again to save your file.  Now any printer RIP Program that uses the "CutContour" path for cutting will remain a single line.  When the path was getting converted, the stroke or path becomes a compounded object with a fill.  Also, you'll want to make sure you don't have your cut path selected if you are manually converting your objects to outlines ("expanding") before saving files for print.  Programs like Versaworks and Onyx use CutContour for cutting.IllustratorEPS_TransparencySettings_Capture.JPG

 

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Community Expert ,
Aug 21, 2023 Aug 21, 2023

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I haven't used Roland VersaWorks in, wow, almost a decade. We retired our Roland VersaCAMM printer and bought one and then two HP Latex printers with Onyx Thrive as the RIP. Anyway, after all these years has Roland done anything to improve how PDF files are handled in VersaWorks? When we were using it if a PDF had any transparency effects in it we couldn't get a CutContour path to light up as a cut line in the software. I would either have to flatten transparency in Illustrator or even rasterize the artwork (using either Illustrator or Photoshop) and position the CutContour line over that. The same problems would occur with placed TIFF or PSD imagery that had imagery floated on multiple layers. The stuff had to be flattenend to get the CutContour path to show the "marching ants" in VersaWorks.

 

Anyway, if VersaWorks is better at handling PDF files now it would be better to use that rather than EPS. The PDF format supports transparency.

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Sep 26, 2024 Sep 26, 2024

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I have noticed that if you have it set to the left or the right it does a double cut, if you keep it on centered it will not.  In my expeirence at least. So might need to make a slight bleed when you save the file to print.  I suggest saving it as a pdf and send.  I also have noticed if you set it to a thicker point size, it seems to cut deeper.  

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