How-To Disable Generative AI features in Illustrator

[Laura37491787fo4f]

As a scientist and group leader, I am very concerned each time Illustrator repeatedly suggests that I use generative AI on my scientific data. I of course will not use this feature, but my junior scientist trainees may be tempted. I believe Adobe will cease to be the leading scientific platform if they don't produce a product line for academia that does not include generative AI.

Please consider?

thanks

Laura

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[Monika Gause]

In which way do you think your colleagues can use it in Illustrator on actual data?

Generative AI has no connection to charts or variables.

It doesn't generate text.

You can get an Enterpricse license. In that the admin can block access to Firefly.

[Laura37491787fo4f]

thanks for the response! Most concerning would be if people can use AI to generate realistic-looking cell staining or tissue staining or immunoblot bands or any other of the visual data that we rely on in my field.

What is Firefly? We do have an enterprise license and I suspect our compliance folks would be interested to know that they can block access to generative AI if that's an option

[Monika Gause]

Firefly is the AI model that is used to generate the artwork.

There should be documentation about the admin side of Firefly. You can also refer to this here: https://helpx.adobe.com/enterprise/kb/network-endpoints.html 

[Laura37491787fo4f]

Very interesting, thank you. I will see if there is institutional interest in blocking Firefly. From that link it appears that blocking Firefly would not impact the function of other .ai capabilities?

[Monika Gause]

If you just block the access to the IP adress, then it will be only Firefly.

[Laura37491787fo4f]

thank you. One more question- is there a way to disable those insistent popups telling the user to consider generative AI? I guess I'm asking if those are driven by Firefly or by another piece of .ai

[Monika Gause]

Are you referring to any blue popup messages?

Or to the contextual toolbar?

In the latest version, there shouldn't be any messages. The contextual toolbar can be disabled. But you cannot rip the code out of the application. 

[John255466092hx5]

How do I disable ALL AI in Illustror etc?
We cannot afford any copyright issues so need to disable it COMPLETELY  across ALL Adbobe products. 

No, we do not have an Enterprise licence. Justa standard subscription.

[KevinR84]

To be honest, it would be nice to disable AI across all Adobe products so that we aren't continually training AI to take our jobs!! Personally, I dont think we'll get any meaningful protection until enough of us start cancelling our subscriptions for them to listen. 

[Monika Gause]

Adobe does not train their AI on their users' content: https://www.adobe.com/ai/overview/ethics.html

[John255466092hx5]

> Adobe does not train their AI on their users' content
I'm not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse or just not reading the room.

They have already read lots of other peoples content SOMEWHERE to train their models. If that is then used on my computers without the artists permissoins, we are potentially liable under copyright law.

1. I don't trust Adobe with anything.

2. I do not want my employees using AI functions that may affect copyright, either because of material it has been trained on, or what it may try to decide to do to artwork we are creating. The copyright legal chain goes all the way through. I get sued, and I will be after Adobe.

Not everyone loves AI. Not everyone wants to use it.  Just accept that fact.

I want it totally disabled across all my products. A big off switch, or per product off switch.

Both for legal reasosn as per the above, and I am sick of the nagging trying to upsell me nirvana. I am involved in enough AI to know snake oil when I see it and i am looking at barrels of it right now.

We wil be voting with our feet later this year - enough is enough.

[John255466092hx5]

> Adobe does not train their AI on their users' content

Ah right. Defintely not then.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-12/adobe-s-ai-firefly-used-ai-generated-images-from-...

https://mashable.com/article/adobe-users-outaged-new-policy-trains-ai-their-work

Pretty sure we can find a pile more evidence if we look.

What did I say about Trusting Adobe? Long gone.

[droopydog500]

Hi @John255466092hx5,

The Bloomberg article you posted does not have anything to do with training on customer content. The Mashable article refers to changes in the terms and conditions, which Adobe has clearly stated were not intended for Adobe to use customer content for training. Adobe has clearly stated it does not use customer content to train AI models. This has been explained in this post: Our approach to generative AI with Adobe Firefly..

    droopy

[John255466092hx5]

The Bloomberg article refers to AI being trained on others peoples material that may be copyrighted, probably because at that point Adobe hadn't started trying to force everyone to save their work to their cloud (one wonder why they might want thats? I can't see it is to build their storage earnings at current rates)

The other articles refers to the discomfort many have expressed over the new terms and how Adobe may exploit the grey areas in their own 'rules'. As I said, I have zero faith in the honesty or trustworthiness of Adobe when it comes to maximising profit. I don't believe I am alone.

Interesting that as a Community Expert you are very touchy about all this. Quick to try and rebut anything. And not even an employee to do it.

Equally you are not so quick to tell us how we can switch off this junk? After all, I am happy for Adobe to get sued to hell and back for copyright abuse, but don't fancy the same happening to me. Copyright law means they can sue anyone and everyone in the chain, including me. But you know this already.

This is about protecting my company, my employees, and my clients, which has the side effect of helping to protect other artists from abuse.

There are multiple discussions about this here (divide and conquer?) and all of them come up with the same answer. Nothing.

Clearly Adobe are not interested in anything but selling snake oil.

Please give us an answer as to how we can turn off all 'Generative' AI features to protect ourselves and our businesses, or the reasons why not.

Looking forward to a rapid response to that one.

[John255466092hx5]

> Looking forward to a rapid response to that one.

Always the same. Crickets.....

[Monika Gause]

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Always the same. Crickets.....

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