Illustrator - Export PDF Color Problem

[joshuatr]

Hi everyone. I am trying to prepare a design. I add a grain effect to the rectangle in the background of my design. Then when I try to export it as PDF, I get a terrible result. I took a screenshot from both Illustrator and the PDF file to make sure the problem was in my eyes. But as you can see in the attachment, my design in the PDF file looks awful. I've looked at solved threads and videos related to this.

I tried Adding All Profiles when exporting, I tried selecting High Quality from the top. It exported the PDF image horribly every time, even though I tried it many times in different variations. How can I fix this problem?

Can you please help with this problem?

[joshuatr]

@Ton Frederiks @Monika Gause I hope linking to an external download site is not prohibited by forum rules. Unfortunately, Adobe does not allow sharing of its own files on its forum. That's why I'm sharing the file with you so you can see it. As I understand it, I am doing everything apparently right. But I still get a grayed out output as a result. Illustrator PDF Export Problem AI File 

[Brad @ Roaring Mouse]

As someone who works in the print world, what you are attempting is not printable. There is so little difference in the values of the "grain" and the pattern is so fine that no matter how it appears to you now that they will never show on paper, especially after they are halftoned for print, whether by traditional haftone or stochastic dot printing. You are fighting a losing battle here.

[Ton Frederiks]

Yes, I already mentioned that earlier "I don't think you will notice the grain effect at that very small size size in print. "

[joshuatr]

Thanks. Honestly, I wanted it to look like the pictures I added here. But as far as I understand it cannot be done with Gren. I haven't contacted the printer yet. But I hope that I will get a clear idea about this when I talk. And I will design my design accordingly then.

Thanks again for all the help.

[Brad @ Roaring Mouse]

Yah, what you see there is merely the surface of the paper they used to print those cards. It appears to be a very thick paper with a high rag content (i.e. not smooth with lots of fibers showing). The background is either printed a solid black or the paper itself has been dyed that colour at the factory (since the edges do not show any white). Talk to your printer about what you want to accomplish. They might be able to suggest ways that work for them and you. You can certainly get paper like that, but it would be a pretty pricey ticket item, and limits what you can do with it (hence why those cards are foil stamped and not printed).