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"Clipping will be lost on round trip to Tiny"

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Jul 10, 2021 Jul 10, 2021

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I'm working on a sign for a company and all the logos they sent are supposedly vector (.svg files), however, I receive an error message when I open them - "Clipping will be lost on round trip to Tiny" (see screenshot of the error message). Then, when it opens it says it's in a clipping group but it doesn't do anything to release the clipping mask and/or ungroup objects. Posting a screenshot of that with all the layers revealed as well as a screenshot of what the triangle logo is supposed to look like so you can compare to what it appears like upon opening in Illustrator. This is something I've never encountered before but it's been happening with almost all the logos they sent. I can't tell if this is something I'm doing wrong or if the file is messed up in some way. Can someone please advise? 

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Jul 11, 2021 Jul 11, 2021

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Chances are there are multiple appearances and AI can't see a way to retain your weird construct. Seeing the SVG code might help to unriddle this.

 

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Jul 12, 2021 Jul 12, 2021

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Thank you - it's a relief to hear that it's not something I've been doing wrong. Here is the code, not sure if it will help:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 25.3.1, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.00 Build 0) -->
<svg version="1.1" id="Layer_1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" x="0px" y="0px"
viewBox="0 0 750 750" style="enable-background:new 0 0 750 750;" xml:space="preserve">
<style type="text/css">
.st0{fill:#FFFFFF;}
.st1{filter:url(#Adobe_OpacityMaskFilter);}
.st2{clip-path:url(#SVGID_2_);mask:url(#mask0_1_);}
.st3{clip-path:url(#SVGID_4_);}
</style>
<g id="surface1">
<rect class="st0" width="750" height="750"/>
<rect class="st0" width="750" height="750"/>
<rect class="st0" width="750" height="750"/>
<g>
<defs>
<rect id="SVGID_1_" y="300.1" width="153.8" height="160.9"/>
</defs>
<clipPath id="SVGID_2_">
<use xlink:href="#SVGID_1_" style="overflow:visible;"/>
</clipPath>
<defs>
<filter id="Adobe_OpacityMaskFilter" filterUnits="userSpaceOnUse" x="0" y="300.1" width="153.8" height="161.2">
<feColorMatrix type="matrix" values="1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0"/>
</filter>
</defs>
<mask maskUnits="userSpaceOnUse" x="0" y="300.1" width="153.8" height="161.2" id="mask0_1_">
<g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,0,0.000000000000227374)" class="st1">

<image style="overflow:visible;clip-path:url(#SVGID_2_);enable-background:new ;" width="613" height="644" id="image7_1_" xlink:href="D89AF2CC2A53C38E.jpg" >
</image>
</g>
</mask>
<g class="st2">
<g transform="matrix(0.250816,0,0,0.250388,0.00000265,300.094613)">
<g style="enable-background:new ;">

<image style="overflow:visible;" width="613" height="644" id="image6" xlink:href="D89AF2CC2A53C392.png" transform="matrix(0.2508 0 0 0.2504 0 300.0946)">
</image>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
<g>
<defs>
<rect id="SVGID_3_" x="157.7" y="288.4" width="592.3" height="184.5"/>
</defs>
<clipPath id="SVGID_4_">
<use xlink:href="#SVGID_3_" style="overflow:visible;"/>
</clipPath>
<g class="st3">
<g transform="matrix(0.719641,0,0,0.721042,-28.166964,288.436364)">

<image style="overflow:visible;enable-background:new ;" width="1087" height="259" id="image11" xlink:href="D89AF2CC2A53C392.jpeg" transform="matrix(0.7196 0 0 0.721 -28.167 288.4364)">
</image>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</g>
</svg>

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Jul 11, 2021 Jul 11, 2021

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SVG is not a native file format of Illustrator, it has to be imported. And Illustrator can't handle some of the constructs well. That's what this warning is about. Roundtripping means to save an SVG and then open it again for editing in Illustrator (possibly after having done edits in other software).

 

On top of that this artwork doesn't look clean. Why are there even clipping masks in that place? Parts of the base logo shape shouldn't be hidden with masks. Only the paths that make up the logo should be there.

 

If the logo has been designed in a different software, then clipping masks could happen within gradients (the gradient is converted to a pixel image and then a clipping mask applied). But that shouldn't change the logo in such a way.

 

So of course you can now analyze it in Illustrator or an SVG viewer, but it still looks like you have to invest a lot of time fixing it. You should educate the client that their clipping mask cannot be plotted that way. They need to get rid of those clipping masks.

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