Text on Path Moves Around When Image is Enlarged

[Deaf_Guy]

I've recreated a logo for someone. I'm not great with Illustrator but was able to get it looking pretty close. The left image is the result (I rubbed out the name above in red). But when it was time to Select All and enlarge the entire design, the ACCESSORIES word, which is on a text to path, starts moving around [seen at right].

Can someone tell me what I need to do to keep that from happening? I don't know if this matters but I use layers when I do this kind of thing. I put various drawings on various layers. The ACCESSORIES word is on a path on its own layer. Just wanted to mention it.

[Monika Gause]

THis was a bug in a recent version. Which version are you using?

[Deaf_Guy]

Thanks for letting me know. Here's my version. I just started a new job today and am just starting to use their Creative Suite. That's the version below that I'm using.

[Monika Gause]

That is the latest version. You could try and rebuild the preferences (this will erase your settings - rename the preferences folder because that can be undone).

https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/setting-preferences.html

[Deaf_Guy]

OK I went into AI and did the File - General -reset preferences and it's still doing it. I noticed another glitch now too. The original below looks like it should when I made it. But now look at the second one below - this is after I selected all and blew everything up. Not only is the word shifting around but the pointed cap on top of the two curved lines is showing up. Notice all the lines are shrinking when I blow it all up.

There has to be a way to fix this. I did the reset and that didn't work. Please advise.

[Monika Gause]

Could the file itself be buggy? 

You could try and create. a new file and check.

Here is more info about the path text bug: https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/type-on-path-not-working-properly-on-illustra... 

[Deaf_Guy]

I've posted on that link you sent me to hopefully get more answers and a solution.

[Monika Gause]

When enlarging this, do you still need it to be editable? If not, just outline the text before scaling.

You could also outline the stroke of that other line.

But that part could be fixed by turning on "Scale strokes and effects" in Preferences > General

[Deaf_Guy]

OK - I appreciate this very much! Can you just point me to a YouTube tutorial on how to outline things? AI has always been my Adobe weak spot and I have no idea how to do this?

[Monika Gause]

Important: Do this with a copy of the file (just in case it needs editing ever again)

For the text: Select the text with the Selection tool (black arrow). Then go to the menu  Type > Create Outlines

For the lines (in order to outlines the strokes): Select the object and go to Object > Path > Outline stroke

Take a look at it in Outline mode: View > Outline to check that it looks OK. Then go back to preview mode View > Preview

[Deaf_Guy]

Thank you so much will try this

[Monika Gause · Accepted solution]

You're welcome. If you run into issues, please do not hesitate to ask. You might also take a look at tutorials: https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/how-to/text-basics.html

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/change-stroke-shape-adobe-illustrator-27751.html

[Anshul_Saini]

Hi @Deaf_Guy,

We are sorry for the trouble. I checked with the team, and this issue was addressed in Illustrator v26.1. However, we have discovered this issue happens with some older files created on an older version of Illustrator.

Also, this is mainly happening due to the path created as a rounded rectangle disguised as Circle, which causes the issue while editing it.

Would you mind sharing the file with us for further investigation if this is not the case?

Kindly update the discussion if you still need assistance with it. We'd be happy to help.

Thanks,
Anshul Saini

[Deaf_Guy]

Hi - I'm finished with that project but the next time it happens again [if it does] I'll be sure to post the file. Thanks for following up.

[Anshul_Saini]

Glad to hear that, @Deaf_Guy. Sure! Please feel free to reach out if you run into this or any other questions or issues in the future. We'd be happy to help.

Thanks,
Anshul Saini

[GG_Nat]

Hi Anshul
I have the same problem. I have posted twice on the forum with no help.
Are you able to help me??

It doesnt matter if it is an old file, or starting from new. I get the same flipping every single time I have type on a path. It has been happening for well over a year.
I am on a desktop, Mac Sonoma, Illustrator all updated.

[MimiF]

as monika commented, if you dont need the text to be editable, then choose the black arrow tool, right click on the object you want to enlarge, and select 'create outlines', and then feel free to enlarge/shrink/or whatever, and there shouldnt be any more issues. you should problably do this with a copy of the file, in case you ever do need to edit the text in the future.