## 9-box grid of transforms - a real-time pattern tester. Possible?

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I am absolutely horrible with patterns. No matter how much time I spend, how much precision measuring I do, or what guides I set up, I always struggle to make patterns that I can turn into swatches. I recently spent 3hrs, and it still looked like trash, not aligning right.

I ran across a guys tutorial on how to create mandalas a while back, and my frustration got me remembering that video. I thought "Of Coarse!!! It's so easy!". I used the principle of creating coppies using the transform effect, and moving them around. For a traditional rectangular or square pattern though, Id need a grid of 9 squares, with the center being the original. However, when I try this, either the middle-horizontal row, or the middle veritcal row end up  being duplicates. The center original always ends up a duplicate.

Does anyone know how to make a grid of "copies" where the original is the center, without it being duplicate?

Monika? You amazing awesome person! Any ideas or suggestions?

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## 9-box grid of transforms - a real-time pattern tester. Possible?

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I am absolutely horrible with patterns. No matter how much time I spend, how much precision measuring I do, or what guides I set up, I always struggle to make patterns that I can turn into swatches. I recently spent 3hrs, and it still looked like trash, not aligning right.

I ran across a guys tutorial on how to create mandalas a while back, and my frustration got me remembering that video. I thought "Of Coarse!!! It's so easy!". I used the principle of creating coppies using the transform effect, and moving them around. For a traditional rectangular or square pattern though, Id need a grid of 9 squares, with the center being the original. However, when I try this, either the middle-horizontal row, or the middle veritcal row end up  being duplicates. The center original always ends up a duplicate.

Does anyone know how to make a grid of "copies" where the original is the center, without it being duplicate?

Monika? You amazing awesome person! Any ideas or suggestions?

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If I understand you right - menu: Object  --> Pattern --> create

does exactly what you want.

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Sry, will have to reply tonight. Thank you for the suggestion. still working on it.

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Will do. Will have to reply tonight though. Hope you have a good weekend if I don't hear back from ya.

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let us know if the example you saw worked or if you need any other information!

Chana

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So, first off, thank for your help and interest. Sorry to be so late on the reply. Unfortunately the Make Pattern approach wasn't going to work for what I needed. I figured out how to do exactly what I need, but wanted to test it enough before reply. Thank you again.

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Could you please show what you did to solve this issue?

It would help others and some people have invested their time to try and help you.

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Ya, definitely. I apologize, I meant no disrespect or to imply I didn't appreciate everyones time. It's just that I felt kind of guilty and embarrassed. Pixxels aproach was the "right way" of going bout it. The way I ended up going is really conveluded and unintuitive. I'll explain, but heres a video incase you want to see it and not read it.

https://youtu.be/IxhO8-imjx8
I can't explain it, but something about the Make Pattern mode didn't sit right.
So:

- I created an artboard 500px x 500px.

- Create grid 1500x1500 2 dividers for both axis

- Centered to artboard and locked

- Create new layer

- Created verital line and centered with artboard, and one for horizontal, centering to artboard (these are for visual aid only)

- Select Layer 2 (the whole layer - not just shapes) and then go to Effect > Distort and Transform > Transform

- Type 1 for copies, and type 500px for Horizontal, and apply. Do another transform effect -500px this time, and apply. Do another transform effect 500px vertical this time, and apply. And finally Do another transform effect 500px vertical this time, and apply.

- Next create a shape the same dimensions as your artboard.

- Select the whole layer again and choose Make/Release Clipping Mask at the bottom of the Layer panel.

And thats the overly complicated approach I came up with.

Like I said, I can't explain it... but even though this has more steps, it just works easier for me and I can save it as a project and template. Thank you all for your time and help. As always, it is deeply appreciated.

Illustrator - So, the Make Pattern option IS the right way of going about making a pattern, but my brain doesn't work right. So this is what I made.

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Thank you! I finally understood what you wanted.

In case you want more complex settings of this, try madpattern.com

A free set of pattern templates.

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WOW!! How do you know all this stuff and keep track of it? You impress me (b^_^)b

Also, ya. . . My wife is constantly reminding me that I have a really bad habit of telling stories or explaining things that include events, timelines, and other such details, but always manage to ommit the most important detail, who/what the story is about. Thank you for your patience.

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Maybe the pattern maker would have been easier.

Create a square with no fill, no stroke color.

Select it and Make Pattern.

Edit: actually you don't need a square, you could start with nothing and enter a size in the pattern maker)

Start drawing.

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