Color block copied from one AI doc, pasted to another AI doc changes the color settings

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Feb 02, 2020 Feb 02, 2020

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In one document I have a square that starts as one color. When I copy this square and paste it into another Illustrator document (with the same settings, web, RGB, etc.) it changes the color settings and color itself. 

 

Here is what I start with:

Screen Shot 2020-02-02 at 6.46.38 PM.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And when I paste that square into another Illustrator document and click into the color, here is what it shows:

Screen Shot 2020-02-02 at 6.48.37 PM.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I updated Illustrator, I updated my computer, I've checked all color settings in both documents....anyone have any idea of why this is happening? Basically, I want to know what the actual hex code is for the CMYK color: 0/83/100/0 and how to get it to stop changing the color with a simple copy/paste. 

Thank you!

Additional info: when I paste into Photoshop and Indesign it's different as well.

This is when pasted into Photoshop:

image (16).png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And this when pasted into Indesign:

image (17).png

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Feb 02, 2020 Feb 02, 2020

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I suspect you have different colour settings. A CMYK value is dependent on the printer profile, how you have configured your colour settings, and document settings will affect this. If you want programs to warn you when you have a missmatch you can get that to happen, but it may also frustrate you unless you first learn about colour management. There is no easy way to master colour.
Colour has both a value and a currency (ICC Profile defines what the numbers mean). There are also at least 3 main logic ways to carry colurs between program, and only one of them can be used as a match, RGB, CMYK or LAB.
In Illustrator you are copy pasting between two documents but with different colour settings, Your CMYK values are identical, Not seeing enough information but one could be in coated paper the other uncoated paper?
To photoshop the CMYK colour is also converted, I'm assuming the document to be in RGB here? Indesign you are in RGB colour space view, did you doubble click the colour swatch in the tool bar? 
It is a little similar to calulating a price in different countries. 100 dollars (us/canadian/austrailian) which one they are all different? is not the same as 100 pounds (there are many countries with pounds)

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Feb 03, 2020 Feb 03, 2020

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Can you check a couple of things?

What is the color mode of both Illustrator documents, RGB or CMYK?

Is there a difference between the document color profiles of both documents? You can check that at the bottom of your window (see screendump below)

Doc profile.png

If you go into your Edit > Color Settings and turn on the warnings for Profile mismatches, what are the warnings you get when pasting?

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Feb 03, 2020 Feb 03, 2020

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Hi Ton, thanks for your response!

Here are shots from the color settings of the 1st AI doc:

Screen Shot 2020-02-03 at 10.41.47 AM.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And from the second AI doc:

Screen Shot 2020-02-03 at 10.39.57 AM.png

Looks like the only difference is that Document Color Profile, one being Display and the other sRGB... ? Is this the problem? Do you know how I make these the same?

Many thanks!!

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Feb 03, 2020 Feb 03, 2020

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Different document color profiles can explain the difference in color..

You can try to change the Display one by selecting Edit > Assign Profile and choose sRGB.

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Jan 15, 2021 Jan 15, 2021

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I've been having a similar problem too, for quite some time, but despite seaching many time have only just found this thread so apologies for the delay.

 

Can I ask you to try something for me? I consistantly get slightly in correct CMYK values when copying and pasting between AI docs unless I hit command+C three or four times before pasting. Could you see if this is the same with your problem please?

 

A similar issue happens when pasting text. Unless I copy three times the text pastes into the second document unformated in the default font, size and colour.

 

I'm not sure if this is an illustrator problem, apple problem or if something is corrupt on my machine, and wondered if anyone else had the same issue.

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Jan 28, 2021 Jan 28, 2021

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I was having this profile too and think I might have found a solution! I went to Edit - Assign profile - Display on both my illustrator documents and now I am no longer receiving an error when I copy and paste from one doc to another. My colours now look the same as well! 

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Jan 29, 2021 Jan 29, 2021

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Display is not a good working profile. 

What happens if you set your Color Settings to sRGB and your documents to sRGB too?

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Feb 05, 2021 Feb 05, 2021

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Thanks for your help Ton (and Shelby), I work in the Print industry so always work in CMYK with ISO Coated v2 (ECI) profile for all documents. I do work with others who may not always save their files in the correct format, but I'm fairly confidant that I checked all the profiles matched before posting on here, but can't be 100% sure I didn't make an error while feeling frustrated.

 

However, since coming back from my weeks furlough, Microsoft Teams seems to have corrupted my Adobe Creative Cloud installation and required a reinstall. Since then I haven't had the problem, so I suspect the problem was with my machine. Intrestingly text still copies across unformated, so I will continue to hit command+C three times and pretend it's a feature.

 

If I notice the problem re-occur I'll report back. Thank you 🙂

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Feb 05, 2021 Feb 05, 2021

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Good to hear the problem disappeared. If it comes back, create a new thread.

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