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Compound path and Group bounding box issues

Community Beginner ,
Jun 17, 2020

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Generally speaking bounding box of any compound path composed from any number of shapes or freehand paths (even just one) being rotated with Rotate Tool automatically resetting. If compound path constructed of basic shapes only (ellipses, rectangles, etc) and rotation is applied by dragging on a corner rotation widget bounding box behaves normally (aligned with rotaton). 
First picture — bounding box aligned as it supposed to, second — automatically reset after rotation. 

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Almost the same with group bounding box with one big difference — bounding box of a group containing any number of basic shapes stays aligned with the group (no matter if i rotate it with Rotation Tool or by the corner rotation widget dragging). When group contains any freehand path any kind of rotation automatically resets its bounding box.  

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Compound path and Group bounding box issues

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Generally speaking bounding box of any compound path composed from any number of shapes or freehand paths (even just one) being rotated with Rotate Tool automatically resetting. If compound path constructed of basic shapes only (ellipses, rectangles, etc) and rotation is applied by dragging on a corner rotation widget bounding box behaves normally (aligned with rotaton). 
First picture — bounding box aligned as it supposed to, second — automatically reset after rotation. 

Screenshot 2020-06-18 02.01.31.png

Screenshot 2020-06-18 02.01.46.png
Almost the same with group bounding box with one big difference — bounding box of a group containing any number of basic shapes stays aligned with the group (no matter if i rotate it with Rotation Tool or by the corner rotation widget dragging). When group contains any freehand path any kind of rotation automatically resets its bounding box.  

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Jun 18, 2020

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Hi, that's not what I'm seeing:

rotate reset.png

What version of Illustrator are you using?

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Doug, it's latest Illustrator (24.2) but the problem persists for a while (can't actually remember the first time i encounter it, maybe after basic shapes were introduced as a concept). 

I did it again just now, step by step: pen tool, draw a path freehand, draw second path freehand, selected both paths with Selection tool (shortcut V), made compound path (shortcut cmd-8), select Rotate tool (shortcut R), rotate random angle, select again with Selection tool — bounding box looks as if it been reset. 

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If i rotate this compound path not with Rotation tool (R) by dragging on the corner (that with little arched arrow modificator) boudning box will look aligned with rotation, as it supposed to. 

Serge_Malevanny_1-1593108651711.png

But if i use Rotaton tool after that even once bounding box will be immediately and permanently reset.

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Sorry, I missed the Rotate tool part. I see what you mean. I'm not sure why the behaviour should be different for the rotate tool vs. bounding box. Have you posted this to https://illustrator.uservoice.com/ ?

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Doug, I posted this problem on uservoice.com a while ago, the answer was "Since this is not a generic issue that we can reproduce at our end, we will need someone to look into your machine to figure out what is going on here". I should try to raise this question again, i guess, with more detailed description of actions. 

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That is the only avenue as users that is available to us.

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I am not finding a difference in behavior between paths generated by the shape tools and those built in other ways.

What I do find is that the orientation of the bounding box of a rotated group or compound path depends on whether or not any or all of the individual paths have been rotated before grouping or compounding. It seems that a group's bounding box will rotate with the group as long as the bounding boxes of the component paths are in the same orientation; otherwise it will align to the grid. The bounding box of a compound path will only rotate with the compound if the bounding boxes of the component paths are oriented to the grid as they were when they were generated. In other words, 0° rotation. 90° or 180° will not work.

 

Peter

 

Edit: The orientation of the bounding box can, of course, be reset with Object menu > Transform > Reset Bounding Box, but if the paths are still Shapes (such as those generated by the Rectangle Tool, and otherwise unmodified) it is necessary to go to Object > Shape > Expand Shape to be able to reset the bounding box.

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