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Hello I am in no way an expert but I have some background in fashion which at that time I would mostly use Corel to do flat lay's and color charts which Corel is very good for. I have since moved into the cosmetic sector which has different needs for coloring and laying out images. I have been told that the Illustrator is overall a more loaded version of Corel. The company I am currently working with is REMOVED

For example most of the pics on that site are actual images of people wearing the products so photoshop has been very effective for touching up the images.

Can anybody recommend any better graphic software for both making technical renders and being able to do touch ups in one solution?

Thanks in advance


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Corel vs. Illustrator

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Hello I am in no way an expert but I have some background in fashion which at that time I would mostly use Corel to do flat lay's and color charts which Corel is very good for. I have since moved into the cosmetic sector which has different needs for coloring and laying out images. I have been told that the Illustrator is overall a more loaded version of Corel. The company I am currently working with is REMOVED

For example most of the pics on that site are actual images of people wearing the products so photoshop has been very effective for touching up the images.

Can anybody recommend any better graphic software for both making technical renders and being able to do touch ups in one solution?

Thanks in advance


Shawn

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Jul 08, 2018

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Corel is a company, as is Adobe. Which Corel product or products do you use? Examples include:

  • Corel WordPerfect
  • Corel Painter
  • CorelDRAW
  • Corel Paintshop Pro

Adobe Illustrator is for vector drawing, similar to CorelDRAW. You can download a free 7-day trial to test it. You might also watch some videos at www.lynda.com. You can also get a free trial there, assuming you haven't done so before.

Illustrator is the industry standard for vector drawing these days.

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"Illustrator is the industry standard for vector drawing these days."

 

The only question is - WHY? Only because it is "standard" doesn't make it good. Adobe Workflow in general is crap. Ridiculous key commands like Ctr-Alt-Shift-Whatever or scaling objects, zooming, menu structure - it's all cumbersome and counterintuitive. A lot of functions are hidden deep down some menu path.

Illustrator and Photoshop are best replaced with Corel Draw Corel Photo Paint (A lot of people seem to get "Corel Photo Paint" and "Corel Painter" mixed up...) It's a non-contest - if you want to work intuitively and create ideas fast.

When it comes to making big catalogues etc it's a different matter. Indesign is definatley the choice for that. Unfortunately workflow isn't any better - but the functionality, and simply the possibility, to create 100-page documents with lots of images AND text is there - which doesn't exist with corel where files would become unmanageable...

If only Adobe could learn from Corel - it would be a better world. This way we get stultifyingly unergonomic tools that make work life hard for no reason...

 

 

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Hi Shawn,

You may well be hard pressed to find an application in which you can create technical vectors and retouch in one.

The best combination in my opinion would be Illustrator to create the render and Photoshop for the touch ups.

I hope this helps.

Sim 

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Having taught at the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising for many years, the standard in both fashion and beauty was to use both Illustrator for the technical flats and then Photoshop for any imagery work, compositing, etc. The workflow between the programs becomes very intuitive after awhile and it is really best to take advantage of each program's strengths as you get a more professional result. While you could try to use the vector aspects of Photoshop, working with both programs will actually be easier in the long run.

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"intuitive after a while" is not intuitive. It's learnt! Adobe is all sorts of things but it ain't intuitive! And it's an ergonomic nightmare. Perhaps they will tell us one day why they chose to make tools like that. It's like hammers with saw-handles...

 

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In Corel Draw you get both, photoediting as you describe and the graphic software. When yoyr in the graphic softvare you find menu edit bitmap, there tou find a very powerful edoring software there you can do the things you are asking for and a lots of other similar to photoshop. Corel Draw graphic suite have all in one so to say, illustratot, photoshop and indesign and for a less amount. Their support are also perfect and very fast i chatt. No issue- if i vere you the choice is CorelDraw.

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All true! Except it's no match for Indesign when you want to create large catalogues...

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If you want the leading edge, don’t look for one app to rule them all

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Illustrator and Coral are both very good programs, but the fact is Illustrator is the industry standard. Most companies

are moving to Illustrator because of its flexibility. It works well with other industry standard programs.

But Test Screen Name is right. To keep up and be competitive. You should have an understanding of all creative software.

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Its so boring to hear this with industy standard, it just shows that the writer can not work properly with export. If you should print  of course you make the delivery to a professional pdf. The softvare is not an issue! If you in a very strange way must deliver an ai- file, thats not a problem for Corel Draw, they have that export- possibility. The best rhing with corel draw is that it have in design, illustrator and photopaint in one product so to say. And it is much , much faster. In corel one click, in Adobe about three to five for the same thing. 

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I might be wrong, but it sounds like the learning curve is what you are having problems with, rather than not having everything under one roof, there's really no way around that other than to put the hours in - preferably on a course, rather than during projects.

There are a couple of  all in one software, but they are no easier to learn.

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But Corel is intuitive with good workflow and ergonomics. Adobe is not...

 

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Aha, as one printmaster sais me onse, "Nowadays Graphic Designer is the one who installed Corel Draw on his comp" 🙂
Well, in 1991 I started working in Graphic Design with Corel Draw (1.0). I worked with Corel, increasing my skills meanwhile Corel made its updates. Since Illustrator's appearance I had them (C-Draw and Illustrator) together on my comp for a while and chose the program depending on the project. So you can't say that I don't know the subject 🙂

10 years ago or so I completely finished using Corel Draw because of its non-ergonomic interface and endless searching for a way to do something simple (e.g. trigg from Select tool to Type tool without using Tool panel or any hotkeys). And I even don't speak now about work with colors, it's a very special headache in Corel soft when you want to print something.
And I must say that Illustrator is better for most of Graphic Design purposes, exclude the diagrams. Yes, this part is weak, and you have to choose another soft for it.

And yes, Illustrator hides some extra functions from beginners. And I think it's right. You have to increase your skills and overall understanding before unsing them. As a teacher, I've seen too many cases when beginners had too wide range of features open from the start: they used it for creating somehing really ugly. But when you are ready to use some extra features, nobody can stop you from adjusting the workflow and workspace like you want 🙂

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Please explain to me the point of

  • key commands with four keys. (Ctrl-Shift-Alt-ABCDE... etc.)
  • Scaling of objects with two klicks instead of one, or with using "shift"...
  • Hiding upright/horizontal page layout selector at the bottom of an unintuitive menu point
  • Zooming without the use of the wheel
  • etc. etc

    Why do these functions have to be "hidden" from beginners?

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