Get rid if the "overset type" boxes, please

[birckcmi]

I user Illustrator a lot for working up pages of mostly type. I know I should use a word-processing app, but I like the flexibility of AI. I invariably wind up with those little red-plus overset type boxes scattered around the field, getting in the way, with absolutely NO reason for being there. Is there any way to prevent them, to save me from wasting time selecting and deleting them?  I understand their use, but there is never a casse of overset type to explain their presence in the file.  

[Doug A Roberts]

Can you share a file with visible overset type symbols, but no overset type?

[birckcmi]

Yes. Sorry this took so long. I haven't been getting alerts from the forum, for some reason. Anyway, here are some examples of the overset type boxes I get when there is no overset type

[Monika Gause]

But there are text objects, aren't there?

[birckcmi]

Well, OK, what exactly is the purpose of the "Overset text" boxes? What are they supposed to do?

[Monika Gause]

Obviously there are text boxes. Do they serve any purpose? And if they don't, why are they there?

The overset type signal is there to remind you of possibly expensive errors.

[birckcmi]

What could be one of the expensive errors? An example? 

It may help that I have put together a template for using area type rather than just starting a line of type at one corner and working toward the opposite corner.  Will the results be any different?

[Monika Gause]

An expensive error would be if a text box is too small and missing important parts of text on e.g. a packaging design.

Please upload your file, so someone can investigate. If you don't show your file then this won't be solved.

[birckcmi]

Hello,  Monika,  thanks for the example. You're right, that would be an expensive error. I'm having trouble with the Uploading of the file because 1. I've never done it before, 2. I did get as far as "packaging" the file, but 3. What do I do with it? I can't use the suggested icloud storage method because I'm running Mojave and not Catalina (old Mac Pro 2012), and 4. I have no idea how to "publish a link" on this forum. I understand that more could be accomplished at the forum end if I could upload the whole file, but you will note elsewhere in the forum this same question came up ("how can I upload a file to the forum?") and the answer was, quote:"It can't be done. Period". And I'm expected to know how? If you can point me at a how-to paper I'll do my best.

[birckcmi]

Here's the link to Dropbox:https://www.dropbox.com/s/kgvuinph31u0ga3/Class%20Notes%2011-13.ai?dl=0

[Kurt Gold]

Can you share your sample Illustrator file (.ai)?

It looks like a pretty odd smorgasbord of fragmented type objects.

[birckcmi]

Hello. It's shown above, and I don't understand why the overset type boxes appear where and when they do. I've never wound up with type that was "hidden" somehow. The one problem area I have is correcting and changing type I have already input. Sometimes the overset box will appear at a correction point, or at a place where I've highlighted a patch of text for some reason. It can take many attempts to select a specific line of type, or a single letter, and by the time I've done it, there's an oveerset box there. No type is overset, it has been altered, but it stays on the line of type. So what is "overset" about it? 

[birckcmi]

(edit)-and what is there about the patch of type that makes it look, to you, like an odd smorgasboard of fragmented type objects? It's all in one type font, the lines end in periods...what is a "fragmented type object", exactly?

[Kurt Gold]

I or someone else may provide an appropriate answer to your questions if you could share a sample Illustrator file (not just a screenshot).

[birckcmi]

OK, I have it "packaged",-so how do I attach it to this reply? Or how else do I send it?

[Kurt Gold]

You can use any filesharing provider (e.g. Google Drive or Adobe Cloud storage) and post a public download link.

[birckcmi]

Thanks for your help, but  this is getting more complicated than I have time for. Thanks anyway.

[birckcmi]

I tried it. I stuck it in my Cloud storage, so there it is. How do I publish a download link?

[birckcmi]

Right. I've never done it, I've never been asked to do it, and nobody I know has done it. I suppose I should know absolutely everything I need to know in advance, but then why would I need to come here and ask questions? 

So how do I publish a download link?

[birckcmi]

It turns out that the only Mac users who can make use of the icloud storage system for sharing files are the ones using Catalina. I'm using Mojave. So that particular solution is a non-starter.

[Larry G. Schneider]

Use a free Dropbox account. Place the file there; right click on the file and you should get the option to copy the link. Paste the link in a new message here.

[birckcmi]

Thanks, Larry. You're right. Here's the link:https://www.dropbox.com/s/kgvuinph31u0ga3/Class%20Notes%2011-13.ai?dl=0

[Kurt Gold]

Well, if you do not have the time to share a sample Illustrator file, you may have to wait for a soothsayer who can possibly solve your issues.

Good luck.

[birckcmi]

Hello, Mr. Gold, I seem to have got us off on the wrong foot. My apologies. I wrote that I didn't have time because I had never done that file-sharing maneuver before, but I looked into it, found that I could do it in Dropbox, and it wasn't difficult. I posted the link in Larry's last post and in Monika's. Thank you for your persistence. 

[Barbara Ash]

It looks like it might be random clicks with the Type tool that are causing the overset symbols.