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Illustrator - problem reducing size/rotating a layered, finished image

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Apr 10, 2021 Apr 10, 2021

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Hi!  I'm using my Covid time at home to learn Illustrator - I'm pretty proficient in Photoshop, but Illustrator ia giving me problems!  I just designed a pair of sunglasses with a beachy-scene in the lenses through a tutorial.  LOTS of layers and processes.  Taking it a step beyond the tutorial, I wanted to put a person "behind" the sunglasses.  To do that, I enlarged the artboard, but I needed to reduce the sunglasses in size and rotate them slightly.  All the layers are grouped - reducing in size is OK, but when I rotate it, my image changes.  Subtle sunglares on the lenses become white rectangles.  Layers that have been clipped/masked are now popping out all over the place.  I cannot "merge" or "unite" them in Pathfinders, since that changes the image drastically.  I'm accustomed, in Photoshop, to merging layers - I cannot seem to do that in Illustrator without screwing up my design.  AARGH!  Any suggestions - or a tutorial you could steer me to?  Thanks, Marilyn 

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Apr 10, 2021 Apr 10, 2021

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Marylin,

 

I am afraid Layers is Photoshop speak, I believe we are talking about objects.

 

Maybe an easy way/cheat is to turn the whole pair into a Symbol before rotating.

 

Some things are unwilling to rotate.

 

A screenshot with one of the offending bits selected and also showing the Appearance panel along with the Layers panel might help; please use the Insert Photos button at the top of the Reply box.

 

 

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Apr 10, 2021 Apr 10, 2021

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Hi Jacob!

I'm attaching images of what I've tried to do.  I had tried merging the images through Pathfinder (which I have difficulty with on a "good" day...), and the first attachment is what the sunglasses looked like when I tried making it a solid image with Pathfinder.  The 2nd image is the original, what it looked like when I reduced/rotated it, and, when I exported it as a jpeg, how it came out PERFECT!  Not sure why, in Illustrator, the rotated/reduced one lost the details.  OK -  back to your suggestion - how would I  turn it into a Symbol before rotating?  Please pardon my ignorance - I'm new at Illustator....

Thanks for your help, Marilyn

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Jacob, I did figure out how to make the symbol - tried it - the sunglasses still came out funky, even though the symbol itself in the little box looked just fine

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Marilyn,

 

What happens if you Ctrl/Cmd+E, which toggles between GPU and CPU view?

 

Apart from that, I would suggest PNG24 rather than JPEG.

 

And, apologizing for the repetition, this may still help (other) helpers help you:

 

A screenshot with one of the offending bits selected and also showing the Appearance panel along with the Layers panel might help; please use the Insert Photos button at the top of the Reply box.

 

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Hi01.png02_ContCommE.png03_CCE_reduce.rotate.png04_commandZ.pngHi Jacob - here are the screenshots:

#1 - the original

#2 - highlighted layers with Control+Command+E

#3 - after reducing in size and rotating

#4 - even Command Z (multiple times) couldn't restore it to the original

 

Thanks, Marilyn

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