Just wanted to thank you for the script. Saved the day and a lot of work for me !
I found this whole thread very interesting. I remember stumbling across it first time it appeared and was very happy to rediscover it as it contained Teri's trick window which I'd forgotten about
It inspired me to add a forth method to the equation, which just got publishing on our Astute Graphics blog: www.astutegraphics.com/blog/calculating-an-objects-area-in-illustrator/
I thought that it may be of interest as it provides a method to calculate the area of all object types - including images, even if the result is more approximate compared to the precise results offered by the afore-mentioned script, plugin and debugging window. But I concede that the method isn't free to those who haven't already bought Phantasm CS Publisher, which the other methods are.
I wanted to thank all those who contributed to this thread, especially James (JET) and Toby (Telegraphics) for producing tools I genuinely use myself!
It is inappropriate to post links on your website to someone else's website without asking permission.
All links removed as requested.
Thank you. I trust you will now remove the completely unnecessary reference to my script and the "removed at author's request" note.
This comment on your site, by the way, is erroneous:
Each method...all have the same disadvantage; they can only provide a result for simple paths – not compound paths...
Finding areas of other object types would be similarly trivial. The area of a raster image could simply be based on its bounds. Getting the area of a clipping path is a simple matter of directSelecting the path before running the script.
So you might also reconsider that particular marketing argument for your plug-in.
JET - please re-read my blog post. You will now find no mention of "JET..." (we have to say there were 3 methods in this original forum pot... because there are). You will also perhaps see that I clearly state the the methods here are free and praise them. I really don't see anybody buying a £139 plugin just for this solution. But it made me curious to see if there was another method with our tool. Call it marketing if you like, but I felt I was clear, honest and generous in my praise of what you have achieved with your scripts.
I am sure that much more is possible with scripts.
I trust this is now the conclusion of this thread of the debate. I had no intention of upsetting you. Life's too short.
Now back to enjoying Sunday.
Just a few Sunday comments:
It is worth mentioning that the debugging window does not show the required information up to 10, so this method is only usable from CS (hopefully) on; this might be mentioned in Important notes.
You have a few misspellings in the blog, the most important one being Terri which should be Teri; a rather common one, regularly seen in this forum.
With regard to your mentioning non Phantasm solutions, as I see it, your explicitly non mentioning the solution by James is rather explicit and thereby conspicuous; besides, the contents is not quite updated, and your mentioning their inability to deal with compound paths still includes all three methods, in other words also the one by James.
I would suggest your changing the introduction as follows (shown as two sets with removal of the BoldItalics in the first one and insertion of the BoldItalics in the second, because seemingly colours and strikethrough do not work here in the forum):
Following a long-running thread on the Adobe Illustrator forum [click here to read], it emerged that there were three (We have agreed to not discuss the third.) methods to measure the area of a vector path within Illustrator. It was interesting to see that each approach was different – and free – and included a plugin and a hidden window within Illustrator intended for debugging by the development team. Each method has it own advantages, but all have the same disadvantage; they can only provide a result for simple paths – not compound paths, clipped paths, etc.
In this tip, we’ll have a look at all the previously-disclosed methods plus a forth option making unique use of Phantasm CS Publisher’s advanced Ink Coverage tool which caters for all object types, including compound paths, editable text, groups and even images!
Following a long-running thread on the Adobe Illustrator forum [click here to read], it emerged that there are different methods to measure the area of a vector path within Illustrator. It was interesting to see that each approach was different – and free – and included a plugin and a hidden window within Illustrator intended for debugging by the development team. Each of the two methods has it own advantages, but both have the same disadvantage; they can only provide a result for simple paths – not compound paths, clipped paths, etc.
In this tip, we’ll have a look at both the previously-disclosed methods plus a third option making unique use of Phantasm CS Publisher’s advanced Ink Coverage tool which caters for all object types, including compound paths, editable text, groups and even images!
Non mentioning is rarely served by mentioning, as may be seen from the Robe tale.
we have to say there were 3 methods in this original forum pot... because there are
Excuse me? You "have to"? Why do you "have to" mention a specific informal thread in an open user-to-user forum at all on your commercial site?
You will also perhaps see that I clearly state the the methods here are free and praise them.
And what makes you assume I desire any notoriety from mention on your commercial site? Just because you couch it as [gratuitous and patronizing] praise?
I agree completely with Jacob's assessment that "non mentioning" constitutes mentioning. As far as his suggested edits, though, I would go much further:
Several methods exist for determining the area of a vector path in Illlustrator: Third-party plug-ins designed specifically for the purpose exist. Illustrator's built-in scripting support provides access to the area property of pathItems. There's even a little-known "easter egg" built into the program itself which can be invoked by [the keyboard shortcuts]. Did you know that Phantasm CS Publisher can also be used to find the area of a selection? Here's how: [Description of YOUR method only].
But, of course, that straightforward and appropriate treatment is much shorter. It doesn't fill up your "blog" with others' content as if it's some kind of know-all-end-all resouce about finding the area of a path. It doesn't explicity compare your product's methods with an entirely non-commercial, off-the-cuff approach offered by an individual in an informal user-to-user forum, who may not want your self-serving "praise," no matter how "flattering" you try to make it.
I frequently get requests from individuals, commercial sites, and authors to link to or make mention of my scripts web content. I've always turned them down. My reasons are my own; they are valid, and I don't have to explain or justify them to anyone. The point is, it is customary to ask before you appropriate someone else's web content in a thinly-veiled attempt to add value to yours.
Jet - regarding the polarity - i downloaded the telegraph plugin - it works fine - but when the path contains a hole in it, the calculation takes into acount the whole plus the hole - do you think this the polarity issue?
I don't know anything about the Telegraphics plug-in.
Patharea adds the areas within the selected paths.
To get the area round the hole, you may Direct Select the outer path and apply the Patharea Filter (which will give you the total area within the outer path), do the same for the inner path (which will give you the total area within the inner path, in other words the hole), and subtract the latter from the former.
Thanks, but I'm looking for an easy way to calculate the ink coverage (we are using ilustrator to design flexo printing, and the files are built with many different paths), so perhaps i will contact telegraphics or, instead, try to enhance the script that Jet introduced (to my opinion - the polarity property is the key).
I'd just like to remind everyone that Photoshop has a built-in measuring tool for area, perimeter, etc. and can save the results to a file which can be imported in Excel.