Jagged/pixelated Edges between surfaces

Explorer ,
Feb 21, 2021 Feb 21, 2021

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Hi, I have a problem that bugs me for years now and I never found a proper solution for: Edges that look fine in Illustrator or exported as JPEGs are jagged/pixelated when exported as SVGs added to a PDF. It´s especially visible where the dark surfaces meet. There is a little room, where the background shows through.

 

My workflow is the following: I draw the outlines and color them with the paint bucket tool. Afterwards I expand and merge same colors with the pathfinder.

 

One option I found is to go go to path - offset path and expand the forms just a tiny little bit. It closes the gabs between the surfaces, but then the other outlines become pixelated, because there are two outlines really close to each other now. It looks better, but still not 100% professional.

 

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Adobe Community Professional , Feb 21, 2021 Feb 21, 2021
I can see the anti-aliasing problem. I also understand why they are not visible in a jpeg export when Art Optimised is used. I think Offset Path is an option to hide these anti-aliasing problems on screen, but they should not be visible on printers that use PostScript or the PDF Printing Engine. But I cannot see other outlines become pixelated when Offset Path is used.

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Feb 21, 2021 Feb 21, 2021

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Can you please describe step by step what you are exporting where and why this ends up being a JPEG.

 

To get rid of that efficiently, what you could do is of course design this in a way that shapes are actually stacked.

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Feb 21, 2021 Feb 21, 2021

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Thanks for your quick reply.

 

I export it as a JPEG under file - export - export as - and select JPG.

 

I could design it that way, but apart from being a very tedious workflow, especially when the illustrations get more detailed, it would also make the paint bucket tool completely unuseable. It separates the shapes automatically, which creates the problem. Why even provide the tool, if you can´t use it?

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I can see the anti-aliasing problem.

I also understand why they are not visible in a jpeg export when Art Optimised is used.

I think Offset Path is an option to hide these anti-aliasing problems on screen, but they should not be visible on printers that use PostScript or the PDF Printing Engine.

But I cannot see other outlines become pixelated when Offset Path is used.

 

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Thanks for your reply,

 

I think printing isn´t a problem, but SVGs and PDFs for web use. The visibility of the offset path problem depends on the Illustration. Sometimes you can hardly see it, but sometimes, when you have a detailed illustration, it shows. With offset path it creates a second larger shape, if you could select and delete all smaller shapes in one step you could get rid of the problem, but I don´t think there is a way. They all have the same color and are on the same layer.

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Feb 21, 2021 Feb 21, 2021

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I think a tiny Offset Path (the one from the Object menu, not the effect) is the best way to hide the problem for screen display.

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Explorer ,
Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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In the attachments you can see screenshots of the SVG version with and without the offset path. I have marked one area, where you can see the different smoothness of the outlines. Can you see it?

Offset Path.jpgNo Offset Path.jpg

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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Yes, I can see it. It improves some areas, so maybe selectively using offset path could help.

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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It only worsens the edge quality, but it closes the gaps. Applying offset paths selectively really isn´t a viable option.

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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I did some tests, but using a tiny amount of offset path really improves the edges and does not show the jagged edges you are seeing.

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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Thanks. I´ve tried 0.1px - 0.0001px and the results looked pretty much the same to me.

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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Maybe it is possible to share an Illustrator file with pixelated edges, but before offset path?

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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The site somehow doesn´t allow me to attach an AI file. I attached the SVG without offset instead. Does that help?

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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I cannot reproduce your result. 2 screendumps from svg in the browser.

This one is without offset path:

wo offset path.png

and here with offset path:

with offset path.png

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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But I am afraid the forum software distorts the images somewhat.

I have attached the svg with 0,0001 px offset path applied.

 

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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I would still say your screenshot with offset path looks a little more pixelated than the other, but its better than in my screenshot. Maybe you use another browser? I use Firefox. Your SVG with offset looks as pixelated in the browser as my version.

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Mar 24, 2021 Mar 24, 2021

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I tried Firefox and it looks fine, I am on a Mac with a retina display which displays 144ppi, maybe that could be the difference?

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Explorer ,
Mar 25, 2021 Mar 25, 2021

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Yes, that´s probably the reason, my display is only HD.

So it seems there´s no real solution to this problem. It´s really weird to me, that Illustrator creates it in the first place, it´s such a basic task. I guess my workflow is just wrong somehow, but then again, why even provide the paint bucket tool? It´s a little frustrating to be onest.

Thank you for your effords. I will mark your first answer as correct. At least offset path closes the gaps which makes it look better for sure.

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Mar 25, 2021 Mar 25, 2021

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Glad I could help (a bit).

It is the application (Acrobat, browsers) that is causing these anti-aliasing artifacts. There is nothing you can do about that, unfortunately.

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