Placing (importing) exisiting AiCC file (.ai) in AiCC creates Group, Clip Group and Clipping Path

Explorer ,
Oct 23, 2020

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Been dealing with this for the l-o-n-g-e-s-t time, and I have not figured out a way to avoid or prevent this annoyance?
I elaborate—
When using the Place command—which I use frequently—to import an exisiting Ai file (fig 1) into AiCC, the end result, invariably, is a Group containing a Clip Group containing a Clipping Path and the actual object.

Interestingly, this occurs only for Ai files (and PsCC files, BTW ..), yet not for JPG or PNG files.
See below—

• Fig 1. First screenshot shows exisiting AiCC file (a simple compound object) I select using Place command (import) to insert in new AiCC file.

• Fig 2. Second screenshot shows how placed (imported) object from exisiting AiCC file appears within Clipping Path within Clip Group within Group.
Also, if the placed object happens to have fill and stroke, they are each separated within the layer.

 

A solution—applicable to AiCC files only—is to open the exisiting file with the object I want import, select the object then drag it over to the new file (from one tab to another), but this opening and closing of files is absurd.

 

Any thoughts and/or solutions are greatly appreciated.

 

Fig 1.

placing-Ai-file-in-AiCC.jpg

 

Fig 2.

placing-Ai-file-in-AiCC_2.jpg

 

 

 

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 23, 2020

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You could check the Link option instead of embedding the file.

Or open the file and Copy > Paste

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Oct 26, 2020

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re:

"..check the Link option instead of embedding the file."

—This does not prevent what I've described initially. A linked file is of no use unless it is expanded, and then we're back to square one.

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"..open the file and Copy > Paste."
—This precisely what I'm trying to avoid: having to open/close additional file(s).

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Oct 26, 2020

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Then you could make a feature request here:

https://illustrator.uservoice.com

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This happens because Illustrator doesn't import/place the AI part of the file, but the embedded PDF.

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Oct 26, 2020

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This is most interesting ... (and almost absurd).

A JPG or PNG file will >not< result in a Group└Clip Group└Clipping Path, when Placed (imported),  ... but a Ai or Ps file will? Good grief.

Thanks for your reply.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
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There is no PDF in a JPEG. You just can't compare those file formats. The clip groups are in the PDF, they are the PDF boxes (the media box etc.).

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Well, it took me a few minutes to figure out what you were referring to. After looking into things, I am today years old when I notice(d) that the 'Place' dialogue window will open a secondary dialogue window with "Place PDF" (top left) >only< when the 'Show Import Options' is checked in the 'Place' dialogue window, options which I never had a need for, therefore I never saw the secondary dialogue window. Oh well.
I don't understand why this quirk (?) exists, and I guess there is no stopping it. I'll live.
place-pdf-illustrator.jpg

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