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A very bizarre problem with InDesign

New Here ,
Jun 13, 2024 Jun 13, 2024

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Hi, gang. This problem is so weird I doubt there's any non-manual solution for it. 

 

I'm formatting a book of over 500 poems in InDesign. My problem is with the Table of Contents. Here it is:

 

Each page has two poems on it. Here's a "fake" example. Let's say it's on page 5. 

Sonnet to a Red Rose

Sonnet to a Bluebird

 

The table of contents lists these poems on the correct page, but in reverse order! Like this:

Sonnet to a Bluebird

Sonnet to a Red Rose

 

It does this with every pair of poems on every page!

 

Is there any quick way I can fix this, or do I have to go through the whole TOC and correct it manually? (Boy, would that be fun - insert sarcastic tone.) I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.  -- Clare

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Jun 13, 2024 Jun 13, 2024

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Just about the only reason this would happen is if the poems (or titles) are in individual text frames, and the frames were drawn in reverse order and then copied across all the content pages.

 

TOCs work best with single flows of text, or a few organized text flows. If you start running text through individual text frames, it's easy for them to get out of order (a nearly invisible thing in layout), and so it picks up the content in wrong order. (That is, the frame on the bottom is visually and logically the second one, but if it's the first in page structure, it will be treated that way by processes such as TOCs.)

 

The only easy solution would be to re-flow all of the content into properly structured pages, which ideally should have NO text frames on them except the single primary frame deriving from the Parent page(s). Any spacing or separation should be done entirely with paragraph styles, not by breaking text into separate frames on each page.

 

I can't think of any second reason this would be happening.


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Can you show a screen shot of how your text frames are laid out? Are they individual frames, or threaded?

e.g. ID normally reads text frames from left-to-right and top down, which can get confusing if there are a bunch of separate text frames. Even if they are threaded frames, it will list in order within that thread no matter where the separate frames show up. So in my example here, the top two poems are a single threaded  story starting with Alpha, but I've moved the second part of the thread up to the left, but the text frame in which it starts is still actually to the right of the one containing Chi. So, ID reads Chi first, then the text frame with Alpha (and consequently Beta) next, then ends with Delta.

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