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AI line breaking optimization for InDesign

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There are many exciting AI tools from Adobe, but sometimes it would be nice if AI would simply simplify the less exciting work steps a little. e.g. the options to have the line breaking optimization implemented directly with AI via the paragraph formats and to control how strongly this is implemented. Or integrate an option for the GREP styles where we could control the microtypographical adjustments as required by simply entering text instead of defining these settings with code.

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James Gifford—NitroPress
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November 28, 2024

I'm sure one day ID will be reduced to one button that says "Complete this project for me." 🙂

 

Until then, what you're talking about is mostly esthetic choices that are adjusted if the generic settings and fairly "intelligent" algorithms for adjusting type aren't quite to your liking. AI would just use a different set of guesses about how the text should appear. But, I suppose, it would do so without all those tedious numbers and judgment.

e__zAuthor
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November 28, 2024

Yes, but we also have design programs for precisely these “aesthetic decisions”. Or have I misunderstood you? I would simply prefer practical AI solutions in the existing programs rather than bloated new AI products or image optimizations that work more poorly than well. Rag refinement doesn't seem to me to be simply an aesthetic choice, you don't do the optical equalization of a shape in the font design because you personaly think you like it better this way.

e__zAuthor
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November 28, 2024

Nearly all text/layout apps of the last two decades (including Word) have had highly optimized typographic adjustment based on many factors, including font kerning and spacing information. It is AI of a limited sort, applying a variety of factors to get character and word spacing, line break, hyphenation etc. to some optimum overall result. Most have layers of menus to adjust these parameters when the generic model isn't good enough.

 

Other than fairly specialized projects (such as ones with scientific and technical language where the much greater average word length and possible lack of coded hyphenation skew the results) or for relatively small amounts of text in "arty" uses, I don't think I've tweaked any typography settings on a project in many years. I don't find making a few tweaks to a line's spacing or breaks to be some onerous task outside of what I should be doing as a designer.

 

So, what is it you want, and why does the magical new ingredient of AI need to be any part of it?


Thank you for your detailed response!

I don’t want AI as a magical new ingredient. The new AI taskbar feels like pure gimmickry to me, and I’ve never been able to use it successfully for a professional product.

However, I could see AI being very useful for tasks that some people shy away from or dismiss as “arty,” even though they can have a significant impact on the overall design. Precisely because AI works contextually, I can imagine it excelling at tasks like rag refinement.

I don’t doubt that the existing highly optimized automations are absolutely brilliant.

 

Perhaps the misunderstanding lies in the fact that I personally don’t classify these tweaks as “arty,” but rather as normal (and everyday) design optimizations—tasks I do regularly, while others hardly do them at all. But that’s exactly where AI could be advantageous for everyone who dismisses these tweaks as “arty”: it could lead to better results, and it wouldn’t harm anyone in the process. 

Do you find this completely over the top, or is it simply not a topic in your daily work? Or do you think the subject of AI in the design field is inappropriate altogether?