belonging of sub-levels

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Feb 10, 2022 Feb 10, 2022

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Hi.

 

When one creates a list with at least two levels and makes (why ever) separate textframes for the level 1 and another textframe (not chained) for level 2 and the sub-levels: how does InDesign recognize that the level 2 belongs to level 1 position 1 or position 2?

Here a sketch of what I mean:

 

A

      A - 1

      A - 2

      A - 3

 

B

      B - 1

      B - 2

C

      B - 3

The red marked level doesn´t "know" it belongs to point B. What is the rule? How does InDesign recognize the affiliation of the sub-levels?

 

regards

A.

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Adobe Community Professional , Feb 10, 2022 Feb 10, 2022
Are all styles for numbering use the same list? (You can create a new list and assign that to every style that you use for numbering, so InDesign knows they belong together); Is restart numbering off? Is a part maybe defined as a Chapter marker (like the '8' you see)? Define lists A defined list can be interrupted by other paragraphs and lists, and can span different stories and different documents in a book. For example, use defined lists to create a multi-level outline, or to create a ...

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  1. You have to work with 1 List
  2. You need 2 paragraph styles
  3. First Level, in number & bullets ABC
  4. Second level 123
  5. B-3 should be C-1, B-3 is outside any logic. The recepient needs a logic to follow.

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Hi Willi

 

The dokument was made by someone who obviously rather works with separate textframes for each line 😞

He/she has pot the index of the lists handmade... I converted it all to a list without putting all the text in one frame. What I don't understand is the fact that the first item of the second level refers to the item of the level before it, although in the document it follows the text frame with the list item of the current item. It sounds complicated,  I hope you understand what I mean. 🙂

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Such list should be in a single frame or in a threated list. Otherwise the numbering follows not the logical order but the order when they have been created. So it is a very bad idea to work with separate frames. You should correct this error.

Why did they work with separate frames? 

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Why did they work with separate frames? 


Who knows...?! I want to avoid rebuilding the entire document. It's not that important. Just wanted to understand the deeper logic of the list-function.

Well, it´s "okay" as it is. 😞

 

Thanks Willi

 

 

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A short repair (but not fully correct), at then of each frame make a return at the end of the text. Click on the outgoing square and link to the next logical frame.

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But then the content of the second frame will be deleted, doesn´t it?

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By making a test in a separate document, with separate textframes for all items, it does´t work. I do not understand how it works (sometimes) in the original dokument.

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Are all styles for numbering use the same list? (You can create a new list and assign that to every style that you use for numbering, so InDesign knows they belong together);

Is restart numbering off?

Is a part maybe defined as a Chapter marker (like the '8' you see)?

 

Define lists

A defined list can be interrupted by other paragraphs and lists, and can span different stories and different documents in a book. For example, use defined lists to create a multi-level outline, or to create a running list of numbered table names throughout your document. You can also define lists for separately numbered or bulleted items that are mixed together. For example, in a list of questions and answers, define one list for numbering the questions and another for numbering the answers.

Defined lists are often used to track paragraphs for numbering purposes. When you create a paragraph style for numbering, you can assign the style to a defined list, and paragraphs are numbered in that style according to where they appear in the defined list. The first paragraph to appear is given number 1 (“Table 1”), for example, and the next paragraph is given number 2 (“Table 2”), even if it appears several pages later. Because both paragraphs belong to the same defined list, they can be numbered consecutively no matter how far apart they are in the document or book.

Define a new list for each type of item you want to number—step-by-step instructions, tables, and figures, for example. By defining multiple lists, you can interrupt one list with another and maintain number sequences in each list.

 
 
Note:
If list items appear in unthreaded frames on the same page, items are numbered in the order in which the text frames are added to the page. To reorder the items, cut and paste the text frames one by one in the order in which you want them to be listed.

 

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Hello Frans.

"Are all styles for numbering use the same list?" --> yes, they do. The standard list

"Is restart numbering off?" --> continuous numbering is on

"Is a part maybe defined as a Chapter marker (like the '8' you see)?" --> no, it isn´t

 

Take a look at the two screenshots below:

 

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Ooookay, I´ve got it now. You HAVE TO define a list, not only using the standard! Now it does what is has to do 🙂

Thanks!

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Good to hear 🙂

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