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Colorimétrie du sélecteur de couleur ne correspond pas

New Here ,
Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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Bonjour, pour info mon espace de fusion des transparences est en RVB. 

Mon souci est, comme vous pouvez le voir avec mon image ci-dessous, mon sélecteur de couleur est pointé sur le carré jaune, mais pourtant les deux couleurs ne correspondent absolument pas. Je ne comprends pas cette différence. De plus, lorsque j'exporte mon PDF, la couleur apparaît plus vive comme dans le sélecteur de couleur. Comment faire correspondre la couleur de mon espace de travail au sélecteur de couleur svp? Est-ce un paramètre mal réglé?

 

 

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Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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Hi @mathilde36496304k19h , I assume if you have your Transparency Blend Space set to RGB you are designing for screen output? If that’s the case do you have your document’s assigned RGB profile set to sRGB (Edit>Assign Profiles..., not Color Settings)?

 

Also by color picker I assume you mean the picker inside of the Color Picker dialog and not the color picker in the Tools panel?

 

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Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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hello rob thank you for your answer!

i'm working for a screen output. my document is well assigned to a RGB profile. 

Also, the color is the same to me in the color picker dialog panel as in the tool panel as you can see on the screenshot. You can also see that it is not the same color as my rectangle on my workspace. I don't understand why. 

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Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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Have you tried deleting your Caches folder and if that doesn’t work resetting your Preferences. I can’t replicate here without applying some kind of transparency/opacity effect. What OS are you running, might be a monitor profile problem? Can you share your sample?

 

This is what I get for sRGB #ffba10

 

Screen Shot 27.png

 

 

 

 

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New Here ,
Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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how do you delete your caches folder?

i tried to reset all my preferences setting but it is still the same problem 😕 

here is the file 

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Apr 03, 2024 Apr 03, 2024

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The color in your sample file is a linked PNG, I thought you were showing an InDesign rectangle with a native RGB fill. If I delete the PNG the Color panel matches the fill. Maybe the problem is with the linked PNG? Can you share that?:

 

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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oh i'm so sorry rob I made a mistake, here is the right file :

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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here is also the same file with the preview on mac, and when i open it on photoshop where it is the true colors

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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When you export your PDF make sure the Export>Output>Destination is sRGB, and you include the profile. When I do that I get a match between ID Acrobat, and Preview:

 

Screen Shot 36.png

 

One thing to note about the Color Picker (not the Color panel) interface—it uses your Monitor Profile and not the document RGB profile for the UI display. To get an exact match between the Color Picker UI and a document RGB color you would have to assign your Monitor profile as the document RGB profile. The other UI color panels—Color and Swatches—are color managed and provide accurate previews.

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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I did what you said and when I export my PDF the color is a little bit better than the preview on indesign.

When you say : "To get an exact match between the Color Picker UI and a document RGB color you would have to assign your Monitor profile as the document RGB profile." How can you fix this? 

 

Also, here is an exemple of my color which is #ffcf35, R : 255, G : 207, B: 53

You can see where i circled is the right color. But on my page it is not the same color. Is it a setting problem on my Indesign? 

Capture d’écran 2024-04-04 à 21.50.25.png

 

Also, here is a screen of my indesign document, my PDF, and the document open on photoshop (where it is the right color)

Capture d’écran 2024-04-04 à 21.55.51.png

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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Can you share the PDF you exported?

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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When you open the PDF in Photoshop, make sure you also set the Mode: to sRGB in the Import PDF dialog (not RGB Color)

 

Screen Shot 44.png

 

That should give you a matching RGB profile assignemnt and color values in Photoshop:

 

Screen Shot 45.png

 

 

 

There‘s not much you can do about the Color Picker interface color accuracy—it displays as monitor RGB and not in the document’s assigned RGB profile. You can really see the problem when a large gamut RGB profile like ProPhoto is assigned to the document:

 

Screen Shot 41.png

 

I could assign my system monitor profile to the document and get an exact match in the UI and then export to sRGB, but that would change the exported RGB/hex values if that matters:

 

Screen Shot 42.png

 

 

 

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Apr 10, 2024 Apr 10, 2024

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thank you so much for your time rob,

what is so funny is that the contrary situation happens on my indesign : 

when i change the assign profile to ProPhoto RGB, my colors finally match on color picker and my page. and on your screen, it doesn't match with this same profile. this is so weird! here are the screens :

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Apr 10, 2024 Apr 10, 2024

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Just to clarify it’s the Color Picker interface, not the Color panel (which you are showing in your capture) that is not fully color managed. Also the appearance differences between RGB color spaces depend on the color you choose. Your saturated yellow is near the edge of the color space gamut, so the differences are subtle. Try a less saturated color like the one I’m showing above.

 

Also, how are you setting your monitor profile? What OS are you using?

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 20, 2024 Apr 20, 2024

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Hi,

 

I am following up on this discussion. Did the suggestions shared above helped? If not, please share the version of InDesign & OS, we'll try our best to assist you. 

Thanks

Rishabh

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Apr 21, 2024 Apr 21, 2024

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Hi @Rishabh_Tiwari, I’ve attached a CC2024 file that demonstrates the Color Picker problem. The inaccurate Color Picker preview is more noticeable when a large gamut RGB profile is assigned to the document—I’ve assigned ProPhoto RGB to the document so that it is easier to see the differences. If the selected object’s fill color is Lab, the Color, Swatches, and Color Picker panel previews all match the fill color, but if the selected fill is either RGB or CMYK the Color Picker preview  does not match:

 

Here my selection’s fill is Lab Color Mode and the Color, Swatches, and Color Picker panel previews all match the fill:

 

Screen Shot 33.png

 

 

If the fill color mode is either RGB or CMYK, the Color and Swatches panel previews match, but the Color Picker preview does not—and depending on the RGB profile assignment and the saturation of the color, it can be quite far off:

 

Screen Shot 30.png

 

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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here is the PDF

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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Le carré qui se trouve sur ta page est en R 225 V207 B53, pas en R255 V186 B16. J'ai ajouté sur ton fichier un carré en R255 V186 B16 et les couleurs sont fidèles.Capture d’écran 2024-04-04 à 13.35.20.png

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Apr 04, 2024 Apr 04, 2024

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Oui la référence couleur est la bonne puisque je souhaite obtenir #ffcf35

 

Voici un screen de la couleur que je souhaite, j'ai entouré en rouge tous les endroits où la couleur s'affiche de la bonne manière, càd sur tous les previews, sauf sur ma page Indesign.

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Ai-je mal réglé un de mes paramètres ?

 

Egalement, un autre screen du fichier ouvert sur Indesign, en PDF où la couleur est légèrement plus vive, et sur Photoshop où la couleur apparaît comme il faut. 

Capture d’écran 2024-04-04 à 21.55.51.png

 

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