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Control text frames auto-sizing through a story

Community Beginner ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

Hello everybody!

I have a story, one auto-sizing (height only) text frame in each page.

I want to control text when to jump from page to page (from frame to frame). For example, it would be nice to go to next frame at paragraph return.

Any ideas?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

Your description is too terse to understand. Post a picture of what you're trying to do.

 

Also: Please tell us what operating system (exactly) you're running. Please tell us (exactly) what InDesign version you're using.

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

I'd insert a column break or a frame break or even a page break wherever I wanted the text flow to jump to the next column, frame or page, respectivelly.

 

( They are all special characters : https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/editing-text.html )

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Community Expert ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

Using the page break/frame break requires manual intervention.

 

The confusion is that the poster is talking both about autosizing text frames AND about wanting to jump to the next frame, it looks like in an automated way. But I'm not sure that I understand what they really want to do.

 

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

" But I'm not sure that I understand what they really want to do."

I must say neither do I, because the following image and description ("I would like it to be done at the end of the paragraph (the best),") makes me thing symeosin wants just one paragraph each page (?!) But I guess that is so strange that we cannot image why he/she is doing that.

If that were the case, an automatic search/change to change any normal break by a frame break would do. But I guess that's not the case. More explanation about the aim of doing so would help, yes.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

Yes, that's the case. I want only "one paragraph each page (?!)" for this story. What's strange? Each page has 6 stories, it's a complicated scientific book.

 

But I have to do it during typing, for I have to keep synchronised all the 6 stories in each page.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

I am using Windows 7, CC2018.

 

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The 2 frames are threaded. Minimum height adjusted as left (for 1 line).

When I type in the frames, just after 1st line the text continues in the right frame. 

I would like it to be done at the end of the paragraph (the best), or something controlled by me.

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 07, 2020 Feb 07, 2020

You never told us if you're using paragraph styles. You also didn't say whether the text in the two frames on the page were part of the same paragraph. You also didn't say whether you had already flowed the text through the next numb er of pages.

 

Assuming that all of those are true, you can include in your paragraph style Keep Options. Set Keep Options > Start Paragraph to In Next Frame. That would jump the next paragraph to the first frame on the next page.

 

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If all of those are not true, then force the text with the Frame Break command manually.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 08, 2020 Feb 08, 2020

Thank you! Yes, all of those are true.

These Keep Options, actually force the start of the next paragraph to be started on next frame. But unfortunatelly does not prevent the split of one specific paragraph. I have tested these options, and also the Keep Lines Together. But because the next frame is "waiting" to take the text, the paragraph is splitted in the two frames. The paragraph is not splitted only if there is no frame threaded afterwards. But if I leave the frames unthreaded, then they need to be threaded manually, and this is worse.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 08, 2020 Feb 08, 2020

Keep Options > Keep Lines Together > All Lines in Paragraph should keep the paragraph from breaking.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 08, 2020 Feb 08, 2020

Oh, no!

Have you checked it in auto-sizing frames?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 08, 2020 Feb 08, 2020

I don't understand. Keep Options is a paragraph attribute. Auto-sizing frames is a text frame attribute. Two different locations.

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 09, 2020 Feb 09, 2020
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If both features interact in a bad way, remove the autosizing of all the frames and make them as high as the page is. Mantain leep lines together and start paragraph in the next frame.

 

That is the best you are goint to get unless you have a paragraph that is longer than one page.

 

If you need to add something in the page, put it over that text frame.

 

For better solutions, better (longer) explanations about your intentions with that work would be needed.

 

Best luck

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