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Endnotes out of order

Contributor ,
Nov 02, 2017 Nov 02, 2017

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I am inserting endnotes in Indesign using the new endnote feature.  When I inserted the first endnote, it assigned the endote as number 1 and took me to the endnote frame.  However, when I inserted the next endnote, it automatically inserted that endnote as "1" an renumbered the first endnote (at the beginning of the document as "2".  And when I inserted the next endote, it assigned that as "2", and the second endnote is still "1" and the first endnote (at the beginnning of the document) is now "3".  What on earth is going on, and how do I fix it?   I am running Indesign CC version 13.0 x64.

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Nov 02, 2017 Nov 02, 2017

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It's worked for me when I've done it. Try restoring your preferences. Here's how:

Trash, Replace, Reset, or Restore the application Preferences

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 02, 2017 Nov 02, 2017

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Hi,

What was the order in which the frames were created? Frames in which you insert the endnote.

What are thier page numbers?

-Aman

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Nov 02, 2017 Nov 02, 2017

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The frame for the first endnote was created first.  This is actually a file where I had created endnotes manually after copying from Word by inserting the number manually and inserting the text manually at the back of the document.   I did that right before the latest version of Indesign came out, which now has the endnote feature.  I was deleting the old manual numbers and text and inserting the automatic endnotes.   That should not have made a difference.

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 02, 2017 Nov 02, 2017

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Hi,

Are all the frames on the same page? Can you post screenshots or perhaps share your file?

-Aman

amaarora@adobe.com

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New Here ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Hi

I had the same problem and worked out how to fix it.

Basically, it seems as though the endpoints work off of the order in which the text boxes are linked together (assuming you have text which flows between multiple boxes / stories).

I have an 80+ page doc, with hundreds of references. After trying to insert endnote 21, it kept putting it where endpoint 17 had been.

The solution, in the end was quite easy.

  • You'll need to go into each text box and use the Split Story Script:
  • Window > Utilities > Scripts > Application > Samples > Javascript > SplitStory.jsx
  • Simply work through your doc, and double click on the script with your cursor in each linked box.
  • In the end, you'll have a doc full of unlinked boxes (which sometimes isn't a bad thing, especially if you're at the end of the project and don't want your text to jump around anyway

Once you've done that, try inserting a new endpoint, and voila, it'll pick up with the correct reference.

Hope that helps.

E

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New Here ,
Feb 05, 2018 Feb 05, 2018

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Just as a footnote to this -

Even after unlinking all the text boxes, I still then had to copy and past the odd box to a new, blank, empty document - then past it back into the original document before the endnotes went into the right position.

Hope that helps.

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New Here ,
Oct 03, 2021 Oct 03, 2021

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It worked after I did this! Never would have thought to do that. Thanks!

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May 01, 2023 May 01, 2023

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Worked for me as well. Thanks a mil @ThorstenG 

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Jan 25, 2019 Jan 25, 2019

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Thank you! One click on the SplitStory script and all my endnotes went into the right order!

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 12, 2024 Feb 12, 2024

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I've found that the LAYER ORDER helps. For each page, make sure that the layer order of the text boxes is in reverse order (make a "text layer" and a separate layer for any shapes/images that need to be behind the text). For example, the textbox that should be read first will be at the bottom of the text layer, the text box that should be read second will be second-to-last in the layer panel, and so on. If the layer order is correct, then you should not have to split your stories/unlink text threads.

 

Why? The new endnotes are coded to be accessible when exported to PDF. Becasue layer order informs accessibility reading order, I assume that layer order also infomrs insertion order of endnotes. After properly ordering text boxes in the layer panel, I have not had any issues with endnoes appearing out of order.

 

Here's an Adobe community discussion on the layer and reading order: https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/how-to-set-pdf-reading-order-in-indesign/td-p/91...

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New Here ,
Apr 29, 2019 Apr 29, 2019

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Didn't work. Removed all the endnote references, didn't do what was advertised.

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