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¿Error de programa o archivo corrompido?

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Mar 08, 2025 Mar 08, 2025

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En la captura de pantalla adjunta, se puede observar que en la ventana de preferencias, el espacio vertical y horizontal de la hoja está marcado en cero, pero el archivo coloca espacios verticales con medidas totalmente aleatorias en cada hoja. 

 

¿Es este comportamiento un error de programa, una configuración errónea, o el archivo se corrompió?

 

Gracias.

 

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Community Expert , Mar 10, 2025 Mar 10, 2025

@e ch n 

 

I hope you won't mind me replying here - so it might be helpful for others.

 

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Your pages - marked in Red - are different for each spread.

 

But the size - height - of each spread - marked in Greeen - is the same as the height of the highest page - and as per definition of your document:

 

RobertatIDTasker_2-1741650752282.png

 

 

 

You've this file created for print? Will you be printing it - or is it rather for Web / Mobile Intent:

 

RobertatIDTasker_1-1741650678250.png

 

If for Web / Mobile - then you should create a new document - with the same P

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Mar 08, 2025 Mar 08, 2025

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It's because you've some astray objects on the pasteboard. 

 

Try IDMLing - export as IDML, open, save with a new name - do not overwrite your original file. 

 

If it won't help - then go to each page, hit Ctrl+A - Select All - you should see where the "extra" objects are located.

 

Then, unselect everything on the page - press SHIFT and draw a rectangular selection close to the edges of the page - to UNselect everything on the page.

 

Now, you should have only this / those astray object(s) selected - you can either try to move them - or just hit DELETE.

 

If it won't fix the problem - you can send me your document privately - please click my nickname - and I'll fix it for you. 

 

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Mar 10, 2025 Mar 10, 2025

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@e ch n 

 

I hope you won't mind me replying here - so it might be helpful for others.

 

RobertatIDTasker_0-1741650541268.png

 

Your pages - marked in Red - are different for each spread.

 

But the size - height - of each spread - marked in Greeen - is the same as the height of the highest page - and as per definition of your document:

 

RobertatIDTasker_2-1741650752282.png

 

 

 

You've this file created for print? Will you be printing it - or is it rather for Web / Mobile Intent:

 

RobertatIDTasker_1-1741650678250.png

 

If for Web / Mobile - then you should create a new document - with the same PageSize - so your colors will be RGB - not CMYK:

 

RobertatIDTasker_3-1741650829561.png

 

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Mar 11, 2025 Mar 11, 2025

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Hola, @Robert at ID-Tasker  

 

Está bien la respuesta en el foro, totalmente de acuerdo, gracias

1.- Sí, el largo de cada página es diferente, pues la cantidad de texto que cada una contiene es distinta; lo que es constante en cada página, es el ancho y los márgenes anterior y posterior a cada texto según el estilo de párrafo correspondiente, ello delimita el inicio y término del texto, y como resultado, la medida vertical de cada página

 

2.-El documento será para Web, no para impresión; está erróneamente configurado, lo corregiré

 

3.-Todas las páginas son individuales, no hay páginas opuestas

 

4.-La altura de 2800 px de la página, la coloqué como base para de ahí, mediante la herramienta “Page Tool” ajustar su medida según lo requiera, al menos, esa fue la idea…

 

5.- Explicas que si es para Web, debo crear un nuevo documento con la misma dimensión de página para que los colores sean RGB y no CMYK; ¿no podría solamente cambiar su uso a Web y colocar igualmente las medidas de 2800 px por 2800 px para ajustar cada página según necesite, o cómo seria el proceso correcto?

 

Con lo arriba expuesto, ¿qué sería lo correcto a realizar, Robert?

 

Muchas gracias.

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You're welcome.

 

I don't think there is a reason for you to be worried about this extra spacing. 

 

Unfortunately, when you change Intent from print to web - InDesign doesn't change built-in colors - there was a thread about that recently - so you'll have to create a new document - then you can just copy your pages there - InDesign will use "new" definitions of the built-in styles and colors. 

 

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Nuevamente gracias, Robert.

 

Qué bueno que no hay una razón trascendente para preocuparse por el espacio extra, más bien es un tema de optimización de tiempos y movimientos, pues al recorrer el documento para ir de una hoja a otra, hay más espacio "vacío" que desplazar para llegar al punto deseado, pero de nuevo, no es un problema, como sí lo podría ser el manejo erróneo del perfil de color. 

Creo que una posible alternativa sería crear el documento con una menor medida en sentido vertical, para que al momento de incrementarla, no se añada espacio de más.

Para copiar las páginas: ¿Sólo las selecciono, las copio y las pego en el nuevo documento, una por una; o hay algún mejor o correcto proceso de copiado y pegado?

 

Gracias Robert.

 

 

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It's a good thing that there is no transcendent reason to worry about extra space, rather it is a matter of optimizing time and movements, because when going through the document to go from one sheet to another, there is more "empty" space to move to reach the desired point, but again, it is not a problem, as the wrong handling of the color profile could be.

 

Don't use PgUp/Down alone - use SHIFT - to jump between Pages - or ALT - to jump between Spreads.

 

InDesing will even keep the zoom level and relative location on the Page / Spread.

 

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To copy the pages: Do I just select, copy and paste them into the new document, one by one; Or is there a better or correct copying and pasting process?

 

  1. Create a new document.
  2. Switch back to your "source" document.
  3. On the Pages Pallet - in the hamburger menu - or click on any page/spread and right-mouse-button click / context menu - select MOVE PAGES: RobertatIDTasker_3-1741714738333.png

     

  4. Make sure to select ALL PAGES:RobertatIDTasker_0-1741714558073.png
  5. Then DESTINATION - At Start: RobertatIDTasker_4-1741714827080.png
  6. Then your new Document as MOVE TO: RobertatIDTasker_2-1741714666586.png

 

Then, you can safely delete last page in your new document. 

 

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¡Perfecto, gracias!

 

El documento ya fue copiado de la forma indicada (la desconocía, gracias)

 

En cuanto a los atajos del teclado:  al trabajar en Mac, utilizo las teclas fn y alt mas flecha arriba o abajo según el caso, y así me desplazo rápidamente de modo ascendente o descendente a lo largo del documento.

Este documento fue generado en InDesign, y ya con el nuevo documento con el perfil para Web, queda corregido el tema del color.

 

Pregunta: En el caso de otro documento que contenga vínculos de Ilustrador, ¿los archivos de AI deben ser generados en RGB para un uso de Web en ID, o al momento de generar un documento Web en ID, no afecta que vengan en CMYK los de AI?  

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Great to hear. 

 

The last part, Illustrator links - color conversion will depend on your PDF export settings - or JPEG / PNG, if that's how you plan to export your pages. 

 

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Great to hear. 

 

The last part, Illustrator links - color conversion will depend on your PDF export settings - or JPEG / PNG, if that's how you plan to export your pages. 

 


By @Robert at ID-Tasker

El documento de AI está en RGB, y se exporta por medio de “Save for Web” en jpg en la máxima calidad.

Corregido el error del tipo de documento en ID, y con la información de exportación de AI, ¿habría algo más que tomar en cuenta para la correcta gestión del color?

 

Gracias Robert.

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Mar 12, 2025 Mar 12, 2025

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In terms of "color management" - I'll rather tag others: @Peter Spier, @James Gifford—NitroPress, @Dave Creamer of IDEAS@Joel Cherney 😉

 

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For color management issues I find @rob day to be very clear...

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Most CMYK colors are withing the RGB "realm" so you shouldn't have any major color shift, however, you do lose the vibrant colors in CMYK. 

Generally,...

if I'm creating a print document, I use CMYK colors except for images, which I leave in RGB.

If I'm creating a web-based document, I would use RGB colors. This would be for ePubs and Publish Online documents. I would not create a website in InDesign unless I would use the In5 plugin.

If I'm creating a hybrid print/web document, I would use CMYK so the colors would look similar between the two documents. 

BTW, I like to use PNG for Illustrator or Photoshop graphics. The only time I use JPEG is for rectangle photos. 

 

I too, defer to Rob Day whenever he talks color management. I'm just talking about color mode.

 

 

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Muchas gracias @Dave Creamer of IDEAS 

Muy puntual tu explicación = )

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Don't use PgUp/Down alone - use SHIFT - to jump between Pages - or ALT - to jump between Spreads.

 

I'll just comment that InDesign's default choice of actions for screen scrolling are poor to detrimental. I can't think of ANY reason any user would want to move up and down in screen-height increments. Remapping the PgUp/PgDn keys to 'Prev Spread' and 'Next Spread' so that the jump is to a useful next view is one of the few mandatory/automatic changes I make in my UI.

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Gracias @James Gifford—NitroPress 

¿Esos cambios que realizas en tu interfaz, serían el equivalente a usar las teclas "fn" y "option" más flecha arriba o abajo; o son distintos? 

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I rarely have any use for a "page up or down" operation that doesn't jump from one whole spread view to another whole spread view. So in the Keyboard Shortcuts menu, I remap PgUp to 'Prev Spread' and PgDn to 'Next Spread.' You can, if you wish, at the same time, map the Alt/Opt and Ctrl/CMD key combinations to other functions, if you find them useful for doc navigation.

 

But to me, full page jumps are the only useful ones, and the most useful, so I find it annoying that they're mapped by default to lesser, harder to use key combinations. The default movement by screen height is... useless, IMVHO.

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